[Seaside] Why seaside really sucks! COMMMMMMMENTS are MISSING

Lorenzo Schiavina lorenzo at edor.it
Tue Apr 10 13:02:26 UTC 2007


Hi Stephan,

I completelly agree with you !

I am available to any collaboration I could give

Lorenzo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "stephane ducasse" <stephane.ducasse at free.fr>
To: "Seaside - general discussion" <seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 10:31 PM
Subject: [Seaside] Why seaside really sucks! COMMMMMMMENTS are MISSING


> This is not easy for me to say that because I appreciate the work of  
> Avi, Lukas and Philippe.
> But I'm sorry to say that but seaside sucks! Not because of the code  
> or the concepts.
> But because there is really not enough comments. Really! It is really  
> difficult to understand a simple
> method is doing and if it makes sense to specialize it.
> 
> This is TERRIBLE since I think that I'm a good programmer but seaside  
> code prevents me to
> be fully efficient. I have to guess try and error and guess again. I  
> have to ask stupid questions to the mailing-list
> while I would prefer to use it for  interesting questions. I think  
> that seaside goes even against the philosophy of
> Smalltalk (a system that someone alone can understand) because this  
> total lacks of
> comments is TRAPPING me. I cannot use my skills full speed. Thanks  
> what a great feeling.
> pleaseeeeeee do not tell me to read the code or to use senders! This  
> is really the worse answer I can get.
> I always hated this kind of answer on smalltalk forums.
> 
> (Please do not ask me what I'm doing to improve the situation because  
> people knows what I did
> for seaside and Smalltalk already.)
> 
> I think that as a community we should do something especially since  
> we have monticello
> and comments could be easily merged.
> 
> I pushed a lot seaside and I'm trying to push it again further but  
> come on we should WAKE UP!
> I would really like that people with knowledge helps improving the  
> situation.
> 
> So if you think that seaside is cool and it is worth more, spend 30  
> min of your precious time and
> add comments, help lukas and the other to make Seaside really a  
> habitable piece of code.
> 
> Comments are for people that do not know or remember. So if you  
> really want to make the community
> grow you know what you should do. But may be it is better that  
> seaside stays a cool program for a nice and
> private club after all.
> 
> Stef
> 
> PS: I should say that filelibrary is a good start at documenting a  
> functionality. May be adding method comments
> would help there too.
> 
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