[Seaside] Seaside with PHP (sort of)
stephane.ducasse at free.fr
Wed Apr 25 07:51:25 UTC 2007
The best things to do is to see if you can make money and have success.
I think that the people of netstyle or avi show us the way.
There are really a lot of successful projects of software developed
in Smalltalk (20% of the world container traffic, 64 AMD weaver
chain., JPMorgan, even SAP is starting to use Smalltalk).... So I
hope that you will stay with us.
On 25 avr. 07, at 07:13, William Harford wrote:
> I have done a couple of largish projects in Seaside and Smalltalk
> (both Squeak and VW). Personally I love Smalltalk and Seaside but I
> have had a fair amount of trouble convincing any number of
> programmers of the relative merits of Smalltalk. Even amongst the
> small group of squeak enthusiasts here is Toronto convincing them
> to use Smalltalk in a commercial environment is an uphill battle.
> The ideas embodied in Seaside on the other hand are met with much
> more excitement. Smalltalk, to a large amount of people, is an
> insurmountable hurtle. In the spirit of open source I blatantly
> ripped of Seaside and implemented a number of it's ideas with PHP
> in a project call Phaux.
> Phaux does lack continuations. In it's place is a mechanism for
> calling dialogs with a callback when the dialog answers. It should
> be possible to implement continuations in PHP but I just, at this
> point, think the complication would not be worth it. It would be a
> nifty addition to Phaux I just don't want to do it :-).
> What I have not decided is if what I might give up developing with
> PHP is worth what I might gain (more programmers who are
> comfortable with PHP). I also have not decided if Seaside and
> Smalltalk are separable. For example loosing code blocks does
> somewhat damage the beauty of canvas.
> What other projects projects out there have taken Seaside's ideas
> and reimplemented them in other languages/platforms. Was it
> sucessful? What was the trade offs that were made ? Was it worth it?
> Thanks Much
> Do I dream of electric sheep?
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