[Seaside] Re: A Seaside2 application for SVG clients

[Philippe Marschall]

2007/8/6, Matthias Berth <matthias.berth at googlemail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> looks interesting, if you want to include IE users, have a look at Dojo gfx,
>
>  http://www.sitepen.com/blog/2007/03/27/ajaxworld-and-sxsw-talks-on-dojogfx/

Or just use the Adobe Plugin. You need a Plugin for Flash, Quicktime
and Java anyway.

Philippe

> it is a cross-browser JavaScript library that will render SVG (where
> possible) and WML on IE. Might be interesting to think about Morphs
> rendering to a web page and events being sent back to the server.
>
> Matthias
>
> On 8/6/07, Klaus D. Witzel <klaus.witzel at cobss.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:02:16 +0200, Philippe Marschallwrote:
> > > 2007/8/6, Klaus D. Witzel <klaus.witzel at cobss.com>:
> > >> Dear Seasiders,
> > >>
> > >> with only a handful of methods it was possible to create a prototype
> > >> Seaside2 application[1] which serves SVG clients[2]. Many thanks to all
> > >> the Seaside developers which have put in such a lot of effort to make it
> > >> so easy for new applications and developers :)
> > >>
> > >> The next logical step is to make a canvas for SVG, like the one which
> > >> exists for HTML. So may I ask,
> > >>
> > >> o are there any do's and dont's for a Seaside renderer/canvas
> > >
> > > WAHtmlCanvas once had code that would automatically generated the code
> > > of all the tag generation methods for you. One rule that has emerged
> > > is to use a the full name instead of the real element name: #anchor
> > > instead of #a
> >
> > That's a good point, keeping an eye on the coder's convenience.
> >
> > >> o is there anything you would have done completely different,
> > >>   if you could start all over again (without any backward compatibility)
> > >
> > > In WARenderCanvas? Yes, if we had better traits tools we would use them.
> >
> > Yes, WARenderCanvas seems misplaced in the class hierarchy (on first
> > sight).
> >
> > And ProtocolBrowser, which separates by message-category name (example:
> > #html and #'form-buttons'), is not of much help for finding overrides and
> > responsibilities of the sub/superclass. Is there any better tool/view for
> > Squeak which someone would recommend.
> >
> > >> o if at some point in time #callback: would be added,
> > >>   are there any drawbacks, things to be aware of ahead of time
> > >
> > > You'll probably end up duplicating the funtionality of WARenderCanvas.
> >
> > Have you considered taking WARenderCanvas away from its superclass.
> >
> > >> o any other comment or suggestion, all appreciated
> > >
> > > Can we see the code? ;-)
> >
> > Yes, Seasiders can :)
> >
> > /Klaus
> >
> > > Philippe
> > >
> > >> /Klaus
> > >>
> > >> -----------
> > >>
> > >> [1] http://squeak.cobss.ch/seaside/sextant
> > >> Does some effects on the builtin Seaside top.jpg image.
> > >>
> > >> [2] Firefox and Opera support SVG, Firefox only to "some" extent.
> > >> Opera even supports the Ajax script.
> > >>
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