[Seaside] Seaside book

Monty Williams monty.williams at gemstone.com
Fri Jul 27 23:47:25 UTC 2007


I'm not sure your restriction makes sense in today's world. You can happily
run Ubuntu Server Linux in a VMWare environment on a MacBook or other
machine, and use Squeak on the native environment as a development platform.
 
GLASS (GemStone, Linux, Apache, Seaside, and Smalltalk) as a deployment
environment (instead of LAMP) will also run in a virtualized machine.
http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/ <http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/>  is
running in a virtualized Xen domU with 768MB of RAM and a 20GB disk image.
The underlying hardware is a dual-processor Opteron 252 2.6GHz with 2GB of
RAM which also runs GemStone's other external websites, mail, a Confluence
wiki, and DNS.
 
-- Monty


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From: Conrad Taylor [mailto:conradwt at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 5:27 PM
To: Seaside - general discussion
Subject: Re: [Seaside] Seaside book


Hi, I just wouldn't want to introduce something into a book that's not
supported on all the major platforms.  At this time, it doesn't support Mac
OS X but it support Linux and Windows.  Also, Dolphin Smalltalk only
supports the Windows platform from my understanding.  However, it does have
support Seaside 2.7 on Dolphin Smalltalk X6.  This is very good to hear and
one can find more information hear: 


http://dolphinseaside.blogspot.com/  <http://dolphinseaside.blogspot.com/> 

 
-Conrad

On 7/22/07, Boris Popov <boris at deepcovelabs.com
<mailto:boris at deepcovelabs.com> > wrote: 

Except GemStone in this context is way more than just a database, its also
the execution platform for seaside itself so would have to be accounted for
throughout IMHO.

Cheers!

-Boris
(Sent from a BlackBerry)

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Hi James, I agree with you 100% addressing all the versions of Smalltalk.
However, I would save Gemstone/S for the database integration parts of the
book but Dolphin Smalltalk would added to the installation parts of the
book.  Anyway, in the outline that I proposed, I assumed that the reader had

programming proficiency but I added the "Introduction to Smalltalk" appendix
for people that do not.
It would be GREAT to incorporate something like this in the forthcoming
books on Seaside.

-Conrad

On 7/22/07, James Foster <Smalltalk at jgfoster.net
<mailto:Smalltalk at jgfoster.net>  <  <mailto:Smalltalk at jgfoster.net>
mailto:Smalltalk at jgfoster.net> > wrote:

        I believe that all dialects of Smalltalk that support Seaside (you
left
        out Dolphin and GemStone) have a no-cost edition. It seems that
        addressing each of these alternatives would be valuable.
       
        James
       
        Blake wrote:
        > Hey, guys,
        >
        >     I'm creating an outline and some samples for a Seaside book
and am
        > wondering: Should I concern myself with Visual Works? That is to
say:
        > If I base the book on Squeak, I know everyone can get it for free
but
        > at the same time, some may choose VW over Squeak for their work.
        >
        >     How much accomodation should I make for VW? Obviously, I'll
want
        > to check over the examples in VW and make sure they work, but
apart
        > from that?
        >
        >     ===Blake===
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