Guiding the Albatross to the VW-Seaside? [was: [Seaside]Seasidefor VisualWorks]

[Michael Lucas-Smith]

Our initial efforts will be in making sure the port is solid so that we 
don't end up focusing on hundreds of microfires trying to support it. 
Michel Bany has done an excellent job of this so far so the initial 
effort should hopefully be low.

Improvements there-in come in two forms: New libraries that use Seaside 
of the ilk of ShoreComponents, where it's on top of Seaside and doesn't 
change seaside. The other form being improvements to Seaside itself. The 
latter we intend to avoid in principle to keep compatibility with what 
Seaside is. I'm sure enhancements will trickle back and forth.

And as to the burning question of are the Cincom guys going to use 
Squeak instead of VisualWorks? funny question, kind of loaded. Obviously 
we'll be using both.

Cheers,
Michael

Boris Popov wrote:
>
> I would hope so seeing as that's where majority of development is 
> happening right now and cincom focus will first be on better 
> integration and only then on seaside itself if I understand correctly.
>
> Cheers!
>
> -Boris
> (Sent from a BlackBerry)
>
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> Subject: Re: Guiding the Albatross to the VW-Seaside? [was: 
> [Seaside]Seasidefor VisualWorks]
>
> So the current development model with development happening in Squeak
> and versions for other dialects being "generated" from there will
> stay?
>
> Philippe
>
> 2007/6/21, Michael Lucas-Smith <mlucas-smith at cincom.com>:
> > Yes, that's very high on the list of laws for this project. We're not
> > forking Seaside.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > Ron Teitelbaum wrote:
> > > Hi Michael,
> > >
> > > I'd like to see Cincom maintain squeak compatibility.
> > >
> > > Ron Teitelbaum
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: seaside-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:seaside-
> > >> bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Michael Lucas-Smith
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:15 PM
> > >> To: Seaside - general discussion
> > >> Subject: Re: Guiding the Albatross to the VW-Seaside? [was: [Seaside]
> > >> Seasidefor VisualWorks]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Some UI testing tool like Watir (Ruby, see [1][2]) or Albatross 
> (Squeak,
> > >>> see [3][4])on VW would be nice.
> > >>> I am aware of the Seaside Testing Tool from David Shaffer[5], but a
> > >>> framework capable of replaying JS scripts and showing the stuff
> > >>>
> > >> happening
> > >>
> > >>> in some browser would be nice - both for the test driven 
> developers and
> > >>> their customers.
> > >>>
> > >>> Maybe guiding the Albatross to the VW-Seaside would be an option?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> This is nice. When we did web testing before I moved to Cincom we
> > >> utilised the known properties of the server side code instead of
> > >> bouncing back to the web browser itself. Mostly because of:
> > >> a) Speed of running the tests
> > >> b) Ease of writing the tests
> > >>
> > >> In the end we wanted to do testing like this - so I whole heartedly
> > >> support this idea. It's going on to the project backlog. Thanks for
> > >> bringing it to my attention.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Michael
> > >>
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