[Seaside] [ANN] GemStone BOF at Smalltalk Solutions 2007

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Wed May 2 11:53:47 UTC 2007


This "number of user gems" seems to be the most difficult phrase to
translate into something non-GemStone-specific. At first we said
"number of user session" (which is the common vocabulary for the
traditional fat-client GemStone application). That quickly ran into the
confusion of web sessions. Next we said "number of database
connections," but that seemed to have some of the same implication. Now
we have "number of server processes" which seems sufficiently vague and
meaningless to not be confused with anything.

Suggestions are welcome!

James Foster

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Seaside] [ANN] GemStone BOF at Smalltalk Solutions 2007
> From: "Mike Hales" <mike.hales at kscape.com>
> Date: Tue, May 01, 2007 10:45 pm
> To: "Seaside - general discussion" <seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> 
> This question was asked at the BOF.  The answer was Smalltalk clients.
> There is no imposed limit on the number of web clients. It is as many
> as the
> vm (gem) can handle.  The idea for the free version was that one gem can
> serve web clients, and the other can be used for development (squeak) or
> system administration (topaz) or for serving clients.
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 5/1/07, Avi Bryant <avi at dabbledb.com> wrote:
> >
> > Can you clarify the Max Server Processes limitation?  Is this about
> > how many Smalltalk clients can connect to the server, or does it also
> > apply to web clients?
> >
> > Avi
> >
> > On 5/1/07, Monty Williams <monty.williams at gemstone.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Here's the announcement made at the GemStone BOF at Smalltalk
> Solutions
> > > 2007. I added GemStone specific terminology in parentheses to make it
> > > clearer to those of you already using GemStone. It was a great
> BOF, wish
> > you
> > > all could have been there.
> > >
> > > -- Monty
> > >
> > > Seaside under GLASS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Introducing a powerful new way to deploy desktop-like web
> applications
> > --
> > > GLASS: GemStone, Linux, Apache, Seaside, Smalltalk.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You may already be familiar with the advantages Seaside has over
> Ruby on
> > > Rails. But you may be concerned that Seaside lacks native
> persistence or
> > > won't scale.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > By running your Seaside application in GemStone, you'll gain a
> Smalltalk
> > > based Application Server and OODB that:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Provides fully transparent persistence that doesn't require
> > > Object-Relational Mapping
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Scales to over a hundred billion objects and thousands of
> simultaneous
> > > connections
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Supports fully ACID transactions to handle concurrency conflicts
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Handles up to 150 HTTP requests per second
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Directly loads Monticello packages into a GemStone VM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > GemStone/S is proven technology currently deployed in numerous global
> > 2000
> > > companies in the financial, container shipping, manufacturing, and
> > utilities
> > > sectors.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Here is a comparison of several 64-bit editions of GemStone/S that
> will
> > be
> > > available in Q3 of 2007:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > GemStone/S Web Edition
> > >
> > > GemStone/S LE
> > >
> > > GemStone/S
> > >
> > >
> > > Price
> > >
> > > Free!
> > >
> > > $7000/year
> > >
> > > Call
> > >
> > >
> > > Number of objects
> > >
> > > 64 million
> > >
> > > 256 million
> > >
> > > 138 billion
> > >
> > >
> > > CPUs Used
> > >
> > > 1
> > >
> > > 2
> > >
> > > unlimited
> > >
> > >
> > > Max RAM
> > > (Shared Page Cache Size)
> > >
> > > 1 GB
> > >
> > > 2 GB
> > >
> > > 32768 GB
> > >
> > >
> > > Max Disk (Repository Size)
> > >
> > > 4 GB
> > >
> > > 64 GB
> > >
> > > 8192 TeraBytes
> > >
> > >
> > > Max Server Processes (Concurrent Sessions)
> > >
> > > 2
> > >
> > > 10
> > >
> > > 10,000
> > >
> > >
> > > Clustered Servers
> > > (Remote Gems)
> > >
> > > no
> > >
> > > no
> > >
> > > yes
> > >
> > >
> > > Linux
> > >
> > > yes
> > >
> > > yes
> > >
> > > yes
> > >
> > >
> > > Solaris, AIX, HP-UX
> > >
> > > no
> > >
> > > no
> > >
> > > yes
> > >
> > >
> > > VisualWorks Clients
> > >
> > > no
> > >
> > > yes
> > >
> > > yes
> > >
> > >
> > > VA Smalltalk Clients
> > >
> > > no
> > >
> > > yes
> > >
> > > yes
> > >
> > >
> > > Web Clients
> > >
> > > yes
> > >
> > > yes
> > >
> > > yes
> > >
> > >
> > > Squeak Tools
> > >
> > > yes
> > >
> > > yes
> > >
> > > yes
> > >
> > >
> > > Support
> > >
> > > Community
> > >
> > > 20 hours/year
> > >
> > > Std 9x5 or or 24x7
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Other configurations between GemStone/S LE and the full version of
> > > GemStone/S are available through subscription or perpetual licenses.
> > Contact
> > > sales at gemstone.com for inquiries.
> > >
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