[Seaside] Re: gemstone / appliance / ISP options

[Monty Williams]

There are three ways to get started with the GemStone/Seaside Beta. The
first is available today for a limited number of users. The others will be
available around mid-November. The general release of GemStone/Seaside is
targeted for Q4 2007.

Option 1. Install a full version of GemStone/S from scratch on a 64-bit
Linux box. This requires a moderate amount of Linux system administration
skills at present, but we're working on automating this further. This is the
suggested route to deploy a production system as you can tune memory, disks,
network, etc. to meet your performance requirements.

Option 2. Install a GemStone/Seaside "Virtual Appliance" on a 64-bit
Macintosh or Windows computer. This is a preconfigured double-clickable
VMware image that includes Ubuntu Linux, Apache, GemStone/S with three Gems,
Seaside and Firefox pointing to the running GemStone/Seaside instance. This
is a good system to use for development, or even for light deployment.
You'll need a copy of VMware Player for Windows
(http://www.vmware.com/download/player/) or VMware Fusion for MacOSX
(http://www.vmware.com/download/fusion/). Note: VMware requires an Intel VT
(at least a Core 2 Duo) or AMD-V chipset to run 64-bit guest operating
systems.

Option 3. Use a "Sandbox" account we can set up on a GemStone system for
you. This is primarily useful if you don't have access to a 64-bit system.
It's not a GemStone/Seaside hosting system, just a place for you to try
things out. If you have access to a suitable 64-bit system, that's usually a
better alternative. Other hosting options are planned for early next year.

Check out Dale's blog at http://gemstonesoup.wordpress.com/ -- it has both
short articles and longer technical details. It's a valuable resource if you
want to learn more about GemStone/Seaside.

You may want to sign up for our low traffic Beta mailing list at
http://seaside.gemstone.com/mailman/listinfo/beta. Once you are signed up,
there is a full archive of this mailing list available at
http://seaside.gemstone.com/mailman/private/beta/

A GemSource repository you can use for either Squeak or GemStone Seaside
projects is available at http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/ 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: itsme213 [mailto:itsme213 at hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:06 PM
> To: seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> Subject: [Seaside] Re: gemstone / appliance / ISP options
> 
> RE: [Seaside] gemstone / appliance / ISP optionsTrying out, perhaps 
> eventually commercial. I was hoping one of the (VPS) Virtual 
> Private Host 
> options that most web hosting providers offer would suffice.
> 
> Does one need a 64-bit machine to do development work? Linux?
> 
> Sorry if this seems a bit disconnected, I did find a good 
> summary anywhere.
> 
> Sophie
> 
> ===========
> >"Monty Williams" <monty.williams at gemstone.com> wrote in message 
> > 
> >news:75D481373A76D311A5790090274F2B5C09E63CC5 at mailsrv1.gemsto
ne.com...
> >Are you asking about hosting a commercial or non-commercial 
> site, or just a 
> >way to try things out? There >should be GemStone solution 
> for all of these 
> >by early next year.
> >As James indicated, Vmware is not required.
> >
> >-- Monty
> 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: itsme213 [mailto:itsme213 at hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:06 PM
> > To: seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > Subject: [Seaside] gemstone / appliance / ISP options
> >
> > I've been asking some ISPs what hosting options they have to
> > run a VMWare
> > appliance (afaik that is the only way gemstone/s web edition will be
> > available). So far the ones I have asked have all said either
> > (a) look
> > elsewhere, or (b) dedicated hosting only.
> >
> > Is it true that this will not even be runnable (on typical
> > ISPs) on VPS
> > hosting programs? Any ideas on ISPs to consider?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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