[Seaside] image unable to start correctly...space problem?

Philippe Marschall philippe.marschall at gmail.com
Sun Nov 18 11:25:34 UTC 2007


2007/11/18, Ching de la Serna <ching.dls at gmail.com>:
> Thanks Philippe,
>
> It seems to me I only have vital processes running at this point.

That would make 8 process and may an additional 9th Seaside process
that you should be able to kill. Can you post a list of your
processes?

Cheers
Philippe

> Funny thing is, memory use is down to 235 MB and I have started to run
> the Seaside app from localhost.
>
> Ching
>
> On Nov 18, 2007 7:00 PM, Philippe Marschall
> <philippe.marschall at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2007/11/18, Ching de la Serna <ching.dls at gmail.com>:
> > > Hi Philippe,
> > >
> > > I have a process browser open. Selecting a process, I right click and I get
> > >   inspect
> > >   explore
> > >   find again..
> > > I cannot find a terminate option
> >
> > As I said, you can not terminate some vital processes. Select a
> > non-vital process.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Philippe
> >
> >
> > > Ching
> > >
> > > On Nov 18, 2007 6:43 PM, Philippe Marschall
> > > <philippe.marschall at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > 2007/11/18, Ching de la Serna <ching.dls at gmail.com>:
> > > > > I see. Do you think I have a memory leak somewhere?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, definitely.
> > > >
> > > > > Lukas has
> > > > > suggested killing processes one by one at the process browser.
> > > >
> > > > Among other things. I'm not convinced killing process fixes you problem.
> > > >
> > > > > How do
> > > > > I do this?
> > > >
> > > > - open the process brower
> > > > - select a process
> > > > - right click
> > > > - terminate
> > > >
> > > > note that you can not kill some vital processes
> > > >
> > > > > It does seem unusual that the OS should report 800 MB or
> > > > > memory being used by the app.
> > > >
> > > > It's not the OS, it's Squeak.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Philippe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Nov 18, 2007 6:15 PM, Philippe Marschall
> > > > > <philippe.marschall at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > 2007/11/18, Ching de la Serna <ching.dls at gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > Hi Philippe,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am using Squeak (I presume when you mentioned VW you meant Visual
> > > > > > > Works?) I have 4GB of physical memory
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No I meant VM. You a single process on a 32bit OS will never have 4 GB
> > > > > > of virtual memory. In general you are limited to 2 GB of virtual
> > > > > > memory unless you play special tricks. This is completely independend
> > > > > > of your physical memory size
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Philippe
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ching
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Nov 18, 2007 6:01 PM, Philippe Marschall
> > > > > > > <philippe.marschall at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > 2007/11/18, Ching de la Serna <ching.dls at gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Seaside,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This problem has been bedeviling me for a long time now. I could not
> > > > > > > > > properly start my image after I got a message, "Space is low". When I
> > > > > > > > > checked, Squeak.exe process was reported to be 800,000 MB and I had
> > > > > > > > > 2GB of memory. Several other processes were competing with the 2GB
> > > > > > > > > memory.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I proceeded to try to solve this by adding more memory. Now, I have 4
> > > > > > > > > GB of physical memory and my app started fine. When I proceeded to add
> > > > > > > > > more methods and tried to save, I lost my app in that it stopped and
> > > > > > > > > would not start again. Can anyone tell me what is going on here? my
> > > > > > > > > image is a little over 800 MB and my memory manager reports available
> > > > > > > > > memory in excess of 2GB
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There is a difference between physical and virtual memory. Using
> > > > > > > > Squeak images of this size is unknown territory. You'll have to use a
> > > > > > > > recent VW and are very likely to spend a considerable amount of time
> > > > > > > > on garbage collection.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > Philippe
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the help,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ching
> > > > > > > >
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