[Seaside] It is time for a Seaside IRC channel?

Steve Wart steve.wart at gmail.com
Tue Apr 29 15:17:15 UTC 2008

Okay I'll delurk - as someone who's on irc a lot and was asking this
question in the channel just the other day, also as someone who knows very
little about seaside but actively playing with the non-squeak variants.

Last time I checked there were 2 of us in the #seaside channel on
irc.freenode.net (mid-morning UK time). The #squeak channel was much more
populated and the consensus there was the traffic was low enough that they'd
be happy to answer seaside questions for any dialect of Smalltalk (the
irc.parcplace.net channels are also very useful).

I don't mind which channel offers support, but if you are going to advertise
it, please be prepared to support it. If I'm there I can give long-winded
war story-type responses about VisualWorks and GemStone but I'm not going to
offer anything sensible about the best way to structure a seaside

I love IRC, it's great for community, but I also see it as a crutch. Better
to take the time to think about your question and your responses and post it
on the mailing list. Chances are you'll figure it out for yourself, or at
least make some decent progress before asking.


On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 4:08 PM, cdrick <cdrick65 at gmail.com> wrote:

> choosing a compromise as Philippe proposed is enough for now I think...
> saying that the seaside channel is quite new and that for historical
> reasons, you're still more likely to find help on squeak
> my 2 cents...
> Cédrick
> ps: is the seaside channel logged as I know squeak
> is...http://ircbrowse.com/index.html. Just a question of a bot ?
> 2008/4/29 Sebastian Sastre <ssastre at seaswork.com>:
> > > >  Whether it is better than #squeak as a source of help on
> >  > seaside is not
> >  > > relevant to the point or tot the request.
> >  >
> >  > Oh yes it is. Because go you there looking for help and the only thing
> >  > that matters to you is how likely you're getting the help you need.
> >  >
> >  > That doesn't mean we can't mention it but we should surely point out
> >  > that currently #squeak is the first place you go.
> >  >
> >  > Cheers
> >  > Philippe
> >  >
> >
> >  No, is not the point. Unless, of course, you want, for some reason, to
> preserve confusion and misleading. Besides not all seasiders are squeakers,
> the likely to found help on #css in the #javascript channel has nothing to
> do with preserving its separation of concerns.
> >
> >  Do we have a trend to try to innovate unnecessarily? even to the point
> of starting to detriment comunication or preventing its improvment? Can we
> review how clear is this point for the good of the community?
> >
> >  Sebastian
> >
> >
> >
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