[Seaside] It is time for a Seaside IRC channel?
philippe.marschall at gmail.com
Tue Apr 29 15:28:58 UTC 2008
2008/4/29 Steve Wart <steve.wart at gmail.com>:
> Okay I'll delurk - as someone who's on irc a lot and was asking this
> question in the channel just the other day, also as someone who knows very
> little about seaside but actively playing with the non-squeak variants.
> Last time I checked there were 2 of us in the #seaside channel on
> irc.freenode.net (mid-morning UK time). The #squeak channel was much more
> populated and the consensus there was the traffic was low enough that they'd
> be happy to answer seaside questions for any dialect of Smalltalk (the
> irc.parcplace.net channels are also very useful).
> I don't mind which channel offers support, but if you are going to advertise
> it, please be prepared to support it.
Aye, this one of the main issues. This also includes a professional
setup with topic and ChanServ or admin bot and so forth.
> If I'm there I can give long-winded
> war story-type responses about VisualWorks and GemStone but I'm not going to
> offer anything sensible about the best way to structure a seaside
> I love IRC, it's great for community, but I also see it as a crutch. Better
> to take the time to think about your question and your responses and post it
> on the mailing list. Chances are you'll figure it out for yourself, or at
> least make some decent progress before asking.
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 4:08 PM, cdrick <cdrick65 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> choosing a compromise as Philippe proposed is enough for now I think...
>> saying that the seaside channel is quite new and that for historical
>> reasons, you're still more likely to find help on squeak
>> my 2 cents...
>> ps: is the seaside channel logged as I know squeak
>> is...http://ircbrowse.com/index.html. Just a question of a bot ?
>> 2008/4/29 Sebastian Sastre <ssastre at seaswork.com>:
>> > > > Whether it is better than #squeak as a source of help on
>> > > seaside is not
>> > > > relevant to the point or tot the request.
>> > >
>> > > Oh yes it is. Because go you there looking for help and the only
>> > thing
>> > > that matters to you is how likely you're getting the help you need.
>> > >
>> > > That doesn't mean we can't mention it but we should surely point out
>> > > that currently #squeak is the first place you go.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers
>> > > Philippe
>> > >
>> > No, is not the point. Unless, of course, you want, for some reason, to
>> > preserve confusion and misleading. Besides not all seasiders are squeakers,
>> > do with preserving its separation of concerns.
>> > Do we have a trend to try to innovate unnecessarily? even to the point
>> > of starting to detriment comunication or preventing its improvment? Can we
>> > review how clear is this point for the good of the community?
>> > Sebastian
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