[Seaside] Ideas worth stealing

stephane ducasse stephane.ducasse at free.fr
Sun Jun 1 07:47:19 UTC 2008


todd
do you think that magritte could help there?

Stef

On May 31, 2008, at 1:04 AM, Todd Blanchard wrote:

> I watched the screencast.  It is not the same thing.  I think you  
> guys are missing something key in that project of yours.
>
> Active scaffold simply lets me point the app at a db and ZAM total  
> admin UI that looks nice with AJAX master detail editing.  I can  
> then filter out attributes that people ought not to edit, apply  
> permissions, and decorate the app with task links.
>
> The demo shows app development.  I didn't develop a thing apart from  
> specify some mappings because the database used weird and  
> inconsistent naming conventions.
>
> I also found it interesting that the app being developed in the  
> screencast didn't look nearly as sophisticated as the tools being  
> used to build it.  I don't find that a good selling point.
>
> -Todd Blanchard
>
> On May 30, 2008, at 4:28 AM, James Robertson wrote:
>
>> Cincom is doing exactly that - combining the ActiveRecord pattern  
>> with scaffolding.  Have a look here:
>>
>> http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/mls/blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=WebVelocity_alpha_screencast&entry=3388846573
>>
>> James Robertson
>> Cincom Smalltalk Product Evangelist
>> http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView
>> Talk Small and Carry a Big Class Library
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 30, 2008, at 3:13 AM, Todd Blanchard wrote:
>>
>>> With the idea that no good idea should go un-stolen, allow me to  
>>> introduce seaside fans to active scaffold http://activescaffold.com.
>>>
>>> I am wrapping up a ruby on rails engagement with a client and  
>>> discovered this framework.  I ended up using ROR because the  
>>> client had an existing mysql database and Squeak's mysql support  
>>> isn't so hot where rails is all about mysql, and I had only a  
>>> couple "flows" but a whole lot of plain old admin-CRUD to do and  
>>> rails excels at plain crud on mysql.  With activescaffold - I had  
>>> to write very little code for the admin UI - a major plus because  
>>> this project is on a very tight timeline.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, activescaffold works with activerecord and infers a really  
>>> slick AJAX UI that supports sensible CRUD more or less instantly.   
>>> Once installed, you can go through and customize views by adding  
>>> actions links, filtering columns, and generally overriding bits of  
>>> logic to make it more task focused.
>>>
>>> It would be really cool to have a similar facility in Seaside.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Todd Blanchard
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