[Seaside] Re: Ideas worth stealing
stephane.ducasse at free.fr
Mon Jun 2 16:15:24 UTC 2008
It would be good to have indeed the possibility for people like todd
to work with Squeak.
> Maybe is time to start thinking in a "Seaside full stack"?
> I think there are some tasks we (as a community) should do for
> enforce seaside adoption, that does not belong to seaside it self,
> but would be cool to have.
> I think we need to cover:
> - Persistence for the Seaside (maybe a "Coral" project?)
> I think this as an abstraction layer with you can choose between a
> magma solution and a glorp solution.
> - Integration for the Seaside ("FlyingFish", "Shipyard"?)
> an abstraction layer to publicate and consume web services (awful
> but necesary for productive applications) and maybe another and
> coolest integration ways, such as hessian.
> - And of course, a "Describe it all" ("Voyage"?)
> based on magritte, we should provide a way to do all of this in a
> clean and elegant way.
> What do you think?
> On 2008-06-02 03:45:50 -0300, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse at free.fr
> > said:
>> So may be we should really do a call for a bounty:
>> if we all put a bit of money and ESUG is pushing then we should
>> be able to create something.
>> I imagine that ESUG could put around 2500 Euros to start.
>> On Jun 2, 2008, at 4:53 AM, Edward Stow wrote:
>>>> A VERY common problem one finds on the web is the desire to have
>>>> an instant
>>>> community website with forums, a blog, some static content
>>>> (marketing info
>>>> or instructional manuals) and a little store to charge money for
>>>> Google 'integrate phpbb wordpress' to get a feel for how many
>>>> people want to
>>>> do this.
>>> I find myself also needing these features.
>>> Currently I have a fledgling application that has a major google
>>> component and requires features typical in a community based site:
>>> user administration, forums, messages, comments etc. Plus a small
>>> amount of server side code to manage the maps.
>>> Unfortunately Pier does not contain the extensive feature set
>>> available in many OS forum projects. Currently under
>>> consideration is
>>> Vanila http://getvanilla.com/
>>> My client would prefer to use MySql, and as much as it may be
>>> as an RDBMS, for 95% of projects it is good enough. It is the
>>> defacto standard server side dbms. Squeak must learn how to play
>>> with MySql to be considered in the mix of open source solutions.
>>> I haven't as yet written Seaside out of the picture, and I
>>> love using smalltalk, but also need to write applications with the
>>> best available and feature rich components and just now Seaside is
>>> hitting the mark.
>>> Edward Stow
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