[Seaside] How to develop and deploy

Bèrto ëd Sèra berto.d.sera at gmail.com
Mon Jun 23 05:18:41 UTC 2008


Thanks :) It was much needed :)
Bèrto

2008/6/23 Rajeev Lochan <lochan94 at gmail.com>:

> Hi Berto,
>
> The nearest thing what you are asking for can be found at
> http://onsmalltalk.com/programming/smalltalk/scaling-seaside-redux-enter-the-penguin/
>
> and also at
> http://open-sourcerer.blogspot.com/
>
> It is for Seaside in general.
>
> HTH,
> Rajeev
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Bèrto ëd Sèra <berto.d.sera at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Is there any "seaside for dummies" guide explaining how to install it on a
>> Debian server and start shared development, versioning, etc? That would
>> imply Gemstone, if I understand your msg. One of the things that make a tool
>> widespread is really those "all in one page" guides that abound for many
>> tools. My opinion is that such things, if published on the Seaside site,
>> would make a lot of difference.
>>
>> Bèrto
>>
>> 2008/6/23 James Foster <Smalltalk at jgfoster.net>:
>>
>> Hi Marze,
>>>
>>> I'm not familiar with GOODS or with Postgres, so I'm not sure how you
>>> would create an application that uses those tools. The general approach
>>> recommended for GemStone/S is to use class (instance) variables to keep
>>> objects persistent. Start your Seaside application in Squeak and just use
>>> the image for persistence. When you are ready to deploy, just export your
>>> application using Monticello and import it into GemStone/S using Monticello.
>>>
>>> Why would you wait till your site gets bigger to port everything to
>>> GemStone? Why not start with GemStone? Then you wouldn't have to do any
>>> object-relational mapping in the first place.
>>>
>>> GemStone/S is started by using the command line and you get to a
>>> Smalltalk interpreter using a command-line tool named Topaz.
>>>
>>> By the way, 'Smalltalk' has only one capital letter.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 22, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Marcelino Llano wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hello list! this is my first post, sorry if it's something obvious
>>>>
>>>> I've been reading a lot about the platform and I'm missing one thing
>>>>
>>>> When I develop a new app on Seaside and I want to start, let's say with
>>>> GOODS and Postgres and two images under Squeak, but
>>>> then my site gets bigger and I want to port everything to GemStone, how
>>>> could I do that? because I read that GemStone is
>>>> the only vendor that supports this kind of migration among SmallTalk VMs
>>>> multiple forks
>>>>
>>>> And other (simple) thing, could I start an image on my server through
>>>> the command-line? there's no GUI!
>>>>
>>>> Thanx in advance!
>>>> marze
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