Guiding the Albatross to the VW-Seaside? [was: [Seaside]Seasidefor VisualWorks]

[Rick Flower]

I was searching my old emails for Albatross references w/ regards to VW
and found this as the only thread.. Any ideas on where things stand at
this point?  I didn't see any references to Albatross in the public store
so I'll assume its still a no-go -- correct?  I'd love to see Albatross
going on this platform.. Anyway, just figured it wouldn't hurt to ask..


On Wed, June 20, 2007 11:51 pm, Michael Lucas-Smith wrote:
> Our initial efforts will be in making sure the port is solid so that we
> don't end up focusing on hundreds of microfires trying to support it.
> Michel Bany has done an excellent job of this so far so the initial
> effort should hopefully be low.
>
> Improvements there-in come in two forms: New libraries that use Seaside
> of the ilk of ShoreComponents, where it's on top of Seaside and doesn't
> change seaside. The other form being improvements to Seaside itself. The
> latter we intend to avoid in principle to keep compatibility with what
> Seaside is. I'm sure enhancements will trickle back and forth.
>
> And as to the burning question of are the Cincom guys going to use
> Squeak instead of VisualWorks? funny question, kind of loaded. Obviously
> we'll be using both.
>
> Cheers,
> Michael
>
> Boris Popov wrote:
>>
>> I would hope so seeing as that's where majority of development is
>> happening right now and cincom focus will first be on better
>> integration and only then on seaside itself if I understand correctly.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> -Boris
>> (Sent from a BlackBerry)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: seaside-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> <seaside-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>> To: Seaside - general discussion <seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>> Sent: Wed Jun 20 22:37:01 2007
>> Subject: Re: Guiding the Albatross to the VW-Seaside? [was:
>> [Seaside]Seasidefor VisualWorks]
>>
>> So the current development model with development happening in Squeak
>> and versions for other dialects being "generated" from there will
>> stay?
>>
>> Philippe
>>
>> 2007/6/21, Michael Lucas-Smith <mlucas-smith at cincom.com>:
>> > Yes, that's very high on the list of laws for this project. We're not
>> > forking Seaside.
>> >
>> > Michael
>> >
>> > Ron Teitelbaum wrote:
>> > > Hi Michael,
>> > >
>> > > I'd like to see Cincom maintain squeak compatibility.
>> > >
>> > > Ron Teitelbaum
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: seaside-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:seaside-
>> > >> bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Michael
>> Lucas-Smith
>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:15 PM
>> > >> To: Seaside - general discussion
>> > >> Subject: Re: Guiding the Albatross to the VW-Seaside? [was:
>> [Seaside]
>> > >> Seasidefor VisualWorks]
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>> Some UI testing tool like Watir (Ruby, see [1][2]) or Albatross
>> (Squeak,
>> > >>> see [3][4])on VW would be nice.
>> > >>> I am aware of the Seaside Testing Tool from David Shaffer[5], but
>> a
>> > >>> framework capable of replaying JS scripts and showing the stuff
>> > >>>
>> > >> happening
>> > >>
>> > >>> in some browser would be nice - both for the test driven
>> developers and
>> > >>> their customers.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Maybe guiding the Albatross to the VW-Seaside would be an option?
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >> This is nice. When we did web testing before I moved to Cincom we
>> > >> utilised the known properties of the server side code instead of
>> > >> bouncing back to the web browser itself. Mostly because of:
>> > >> a) Speed of running the tests
>> > >> b) Ease of writing the tests
>> > >>
>> > >> In the end we wanted to do testing like this - so I whole heartedly
>> > >> support this idea. It's going on to the project backlog. Thanks for
>> > >> bringing it to my attention.
>> > >>
>> > >> Cheers,
>> > >> Michael
>> > >>
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