[Seaside] Ideas worth stealing
Todd Blanchard
tblanchard at mac.com
Fri May 30 23:04:18 UTC 2008
I watched the screencast. It is not the same thing. I think you guys
are missing something key in that project of yours.
Active scaffold simply lets me point the app at a db and ZAM total
admin UI that looks nice with AJAX master detail editing. I can then
filter out attributes that people ought not to edit, apply
permissions, and decorate the app with task links.
The demo shows app development. I didn't develop a thing apart from
specify some mappings because the database used weird and inconsistent
naming conventions.
I also found it interesting that the app being developed in the
screencast didn't look nearly as sophisticated as the tools being used
to build it. I don't find that a good selling point.
-Todd Blanchard
On May 30, 2008, at 4:28 AM, James Robertson wrote:
> Cincom is doing exactly that - combining the ActiveRecord pattern
> with scaffolding. Have a look here:
>
> http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/mls/blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=WebVelocity_alpha_screencast&entry=3388846573
>
> James Robertson
> Cincom Smalltalk Product Evangelist
> http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView
> Talk Small and Carry a Big Class Library
>
>
>
>
> On May 30, 2008, at 3:13 AM, Todd Blanchard wrote:
>
>> With the idea that no good idea should go un-stolen, allow me to
>> introduce seaside fans to active scaffold http://activescaffold.com.
>>
>> I am wrapping up a ruby on rails engagement with a client and
>> discovered this framework. I ended up using ROR because the client
>> had an existing mysql database and Squeak's mysql support isn't so
>> hot where rails is all about mysql, and I had only a couple "flows"
>> but a whole lot of plain old admin-CRUD to do and rails excels at
>> plain crud on mysql. With activescaffold - I had to write very
>> little code for the admin UI - a major plus because this project is
>> on a very tight timeline.
>>
>> Anyhow, activescaffold works with activerecord and infers a really
>> slick AJAX UI that supports sensible CRUD more or less instantly.
>> Once installed, you can go through and customize views by adding
>> actions links, filtering columns, and generally overriding bits of
>> logic to make it more task focused.
>>
>> It would be really cool to have a similar facility in Seaside.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Todd Blanchard
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