[Seaside] html & css basics and tutorial

[r00t uk]

Thanks for the response and I completely agree with you that it is not
Seaside's place to teach HTML.  What I am looking for is the Smalltalk
expressions used to create the HTML, i.e. the "receiver, message selector
and arguments".  For example, to display a url in HTML you would type:

<a href="http://www.w3schools.com/">Visit W3Schools!</a>

but in Smalltalk you would type the following in a "rendering" method:

html anchor url: 'www.3schools.com'; with: 'Visit W3Schools!'.

Now, without using CSS, you are able to change font, font-size, style
etc. of the link above, but how is it done using Smalltalk
expressions?
How, or where can I find information that will give me valid
"receiver, message selector and arguments"?  I assume that the
"receiver" will always
be "html".

I hope that clarifies my question(s)?  If it is a matter of just
working your way through class libraries and comments (which ones?)
then that
is what I will do.  Just feels like there must be an easier way for
finding the information.

Thanks again in advance


2008/11/25 David Mitchell <david.mitchell at gmail.com>

> I'm definitely not a CSS expert. But I've worked with frameworks that
> generate HTML before.
>
> I didn't have any trouble using our companies CSS into the apps I was
> generating with Seaside. Just looked at the HTML and where they wanted
> the div tags and then made sure that I generated to match.
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:30 PM, John M <p3anoman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > FWIW I was/am still in the same boat and the w3schools site was a
> valuable
> > refernce on what attributes are valid for what tags etc. Its really not
> > Seaside's purpose to teach html, only to give a great tool for creating
> it
> > in a highly reusable fashion.
> >
> > Firebug for Firefox is an extremely useful tool for letting you see your
> > html as rendered and showing you where your div sections end up laying
> out
> > etc. I could not get a handle on CSS until i started using it. (Firebug
> has
> > some other really useful features that you may need when you get to
> > working with javascript for example).
> >
> > Hope this helps
> > John
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:04 PM, r00t uk <r00tuk at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I am hoping to get some advice on how to proceed with HTML & CSS in
> >> Squeak/Seaside as I am finding it a bit of a struggle to do the simple
> >> stuff.  I do not have any prior experience with web programming, but I
> have
> >> been going through the w3schools.com tutorials for guidance on creating
> the
> >> #style method.  Its the rendering side of things which are a bit of a
> >> struggle as all of the html is generated by Seaside.
> >>
> >> Are there any tutorials on web programming with Seaside?  I have been
> >> spending time getting to know Smalltalk and a bit of Seaside, but up
> until
> >> now I have not been concentrating on learning html presentation, or
> using
> >> css to manage its presentation. I am somewhat surprised that there
> appears
> >> to be no information, documentation or tutorials on rendering except for
> >> some information in the "HPI - An Introduction to Seaside" book.  I am
> >> spending a lot of time looking at methods in the example and test
> classes,
> >> which I don't mind, but I somehow doubt this is the best use of time.
>  Where
> >> do I need to look for information about html rendering methods and
> message
> >> values?
> >>
> >> Thanks and sorry if I have completely missed some site that has relevent
> >> documentation.
> >>
> >>
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