[Seaside] how much introduction?

[Taun]

I think the real point Philippe made is a good one. It is not good for the Squeak/Smalltalk community to point a new user to an alpha product. The new user should be pointed to a stable functional platform so they can concentrate on learning the language not the platform bugs.

Philippe's example of breakage was an example for why Pharo might not be good for Sergio. As an additional example, I was using Pharo the other day and while testing one of my models, I discovered #timesRepeat: was broken. Imagine Sergio running some simple sample code loops and getting the wrong answer. What is that going to do to his newly forming opinion of Squeak?

Again, these are not criticisms of Pharo, simply reasons why Pharo might not be the right tool for a beginning Squeak/Seaside user.

Taun


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Lienhard" <adi at netstyle.ch>
To: "Seaside - general discussion" <seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 12:45:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Seaside] how much introduction?

Pharo currently is in alpha, so its surprising you expect it to be  
free of bugs. We are making a lot of progress, so sometimes a change  
breaks some unexpected functionality. Usually, though, this is fixed  
within few days. We will soon go to beta and then produce a release  
that is going to be maintained. That's where you can expect stability.

Adrian

On Oct 27, 2008, at 17:25 , Philippe Marschall wrote:

> 2008/10/27 stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse at free.fr>:
>> Hi sergio
>>
>> when you will be fit on the syntax and the environment. I suggest  
>> you to
>> take
>> the pharo image since it is really starting to get cleaner and  
>> cleaner.
>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/
>
> I don't want to bash any of you but I have had some really bad
> experiences with Pharo. Stuff like ClassBuilder exploding in my face
> and OmniBrowser not working.
>
> Cheers
> Philippe
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