[Seaside] how much introduction?

David Mitchell david.mitchell at gmail.com
Fri Oct 31 13:34:23 UTC 2008


I agree with Stef,

I moved my production code to Pharo last month and I've had no issue reports.

I've loaded Seaside, MySql, and my own code.


On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:36 AM, stephane ducasse
<stephane.ducasse at free.fr> wrote:
>
> On Oct 29, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Taun wrote:
>
>> I think the real point Philippe made is a good one. It is not good for the
>> Squeak/Smalltalk community to point a new user to an alpha product. The new
>> user should be pointed to a stable functional platform so they can
>> concentrate on learning the language not the platform bugs.
>
> Come on we are a good group of people using pharo daily and it has less bugs
> than squeak.
> I know since I harvested the fixes.
>
>> Philippe's example of breakage was an example for why Pharo might not be
>> good for Sergio.
>
> I think that this is not true.
> Do you think that a newcomer is not overhlem by the squeak menu!
>
>
>> As an additional example, I was using Pharo the other day and while
>> testing one of my models, I discovered #timesRepeat: was broken.
>
> I would be really amazed that timesRepeat: would be broken in pharo.
> Can you tell us, which version and how to reproduce that?
>
>
>> Imagine Sergio running some simple sample code loops and getting the wrong
>> answer. What is that going to do to his newly forming opinion of Squeak?
>>
>> Again, these are not criticisms of Pharo, simply reasons why Pharo might
>> not be the right tool for a beginning Squeak/Seaside user.
>
> I would argue the inverse: Take soon the one click image with the new
> browser of david and the clean menu.
> Pharo will have much more tests than any squeak distro.
> Pharo contains far less broken code than 3.9 or 3.10.
>
> After the point is that we are working on it so when you update you can get
> some glitches.
> But even with that I think that this is better than 3.9.
>
> Stef
>
>>
>>
>> Taun
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Adrian Lienhard" <adi at netstyle.ch>
>> To: "Seaside - general discussion" <seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 12:45:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] how much introduction?
>>
>> Pharo currently is in alpha, so its surprising you expect it to be
>> free of bugs. We are making a lot of progress, so sometimes a change
>> breaks some unexpected functionality. Usually, though, this is fixed
>> within few days. We will soon go to beta and then produce a release
>> that is going to be maintained. That's where you can expect stability.
>>
>> Adrian
>>
>> On Oct 27, 2008, at 17:25 , Philippe Marschall wrote:
>>
>>> 2008/10/27 stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse at free.fr>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi sergio
>>>>
>>>> when you will be fit on the syntax and the environment. I suggest
>>>> you to
>>>> take
>>>> the pharo image since it is really starting to get cleaner and
>>>> cleaner.
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/
>>>
>>> I don't want to bash any of you but I have had some really bad
>>> experiences with Pharo. Stuff like ClassBuilder exploding in my face
>>> and OmniBrowser not working.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Philippe
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