[Seaside] Some very basic questions about replacing my webstack

James Robertson jrobertson at cincom.com
Wed Apr 8 04:06:02 UTC 2009

To answer for VisualWorks

-- we support SSL
-- There is an LDAP implementation in the public store repository,  
although it is not supported by Cincom
-- We support SMTP, as well as the client side POP and IMAP
-- We support a number of databases, including Oracle, SQLServer,  
PostGreSQL, and MySQL

We have support for Seaside 2.8 in the shipping version of  
VisualWorks, and we plan to support 2.9 when it is released.  You  
might be interested in looking at what we're doing with Web Velocity,  
which integrates Seaside, Active Record support built on top of GLORP,  
and rapid development directly in the web browser

You can see what we're doing with Web Velocity here:


James Robertson
Cincom Smalltalk Product Evangelist
Talk Small and Carry a Big Class Library

On Apr 7, 2009, at 11:48 PM, Andy Burnett wrote:

> We currently develop web applications using IBM's Domino server.  I  
> want to move us over to Smalltalk and Seaside, but I am having some  
> problems understanding which bits we need to assemble in order to  
> make the application stack (the problem with using Domino is that  
> everything is included in one box, so that tends to insulate  
> developers from needing other tools, and hence learning about  
> them).  I would really appreciate it if someone could explain the  
> 'mainstream' way of achieving our basic requirements.  Although we  
> like Squeak, we are equally happy to go with VW and/or Gemstone if  
> they are better/more reliable/easier ways to get what we need (and I  
> realise that those criteria may well be in the eye of the beholder)
> The key facilities we need are:
> SSL connections (I now understand that this is handled by Apache)
> User registration and authentication.  LDAP would seem to be a good  
> approach - particularly for single sign-on - but does Seaside talk  
> with LDAP (it would be useful to get autheticated usernames in the  
> apps)
> SMTP (in and out).  We would like to be able to generate emails and  
> receive them into the applications - where appropriate
> Some sort of database.  We don't do very large scale data crunching,  
> but we do need to be able to reliably store and retrieve subsets of  
> objects.
> Just to be clear, I don't want to burden anyone by asking for  
> detailed descriptions, I just want to know - in broad terms - what  
> we would need in order to replace the domino back end and allow us  
> to develop apps in Smalltalk.
> Thanks
> Andy
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