[Seaside] clamato - a smalltalk dialect for javascript

[radoslav hodnicak]

there seem to be many variables - interacting with DOM, closures, 
frameworks (we use mootools which is nice, but adds another layer where 
things can get wrong, or let you do something where you don't understand 
the consequences completely). i'd say the worst part is a lack of proper 
debugging tools which would let you chase references or do all the other 
things smalltalkers take for granted.

rado

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009, Avi Bryant wrote:

> I don't think it introduces any more risk of memory leaks than was
> already there.  What kinds of things were you finding caused them?
>
> Avi
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:06 PM, radoslav hodnicak<rh at 4096.sk> wrote:
>>
>> this looks interesting. i'm writing a lot of javascript these days too -
>> does this approach introduce potential problems with memory leaks
>> (especially on the lesser platforms i.e. IE)? that's been my #1 issue with
>> javascript so far (for long running pages that update themselves etc).
>>
>> rado
>>
>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Avi Bryant wrote:
>>
>>> I hadn't meant to announce this yet, but since it's gotten out anyway
>>> (at Hacker News), I might as well tell the people who will be the most
>>> interested :)  At http://clamato.net, you'll find the start of a
>>> project we've been working on at Dabble DB in our spare time this
>>> summer, with the aim of making all of the client-side code we have to
>>> write more pleasant: a self-hosting compiler from (almost-)Smalltalk
>>> to Javascript, and a system browser to go with it.  There's lots of
>>> work left to be done, so feel free to submit patches... the code is at
>>> http://bitbucket.org/avibryant/clamato/ .
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Avi
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