[Seaside] About Deployment

Monty Williams monty.williams at gemstone.com
Tue Dec 1 16:39:05 UTC 2009

I know it's possible to deploy GLASS on slicehost (http://programminggems.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/slice-6/) and I'm sure you could do equally well on Linode or other hosting suppliers. There are a number of other options, too. So don't feel restricted to only seasidehosting. 
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From: "Frederic Pluquet" <fpluquet at ulb.ac.be> 
To: "Seaside - general discussion" <seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:18:59 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [Seaside] About Deployment 


I use Seaside for a lot of personal development and I love its rapidity of development! But for real deployment there is a big disadvantage. At my knowledge, I have only two solutions to deploy an application: have an own server (what I do for the moment) or put my image on seasidehosting. 

So I have a simple idea: it will be really cool if I can develop in Smalltalk with Seaside and I deploy the code in Php/MySql to put it in any common server. 

I think this idea is not so crazy. I know there is a world between Smalltalk and Php (I know both well) but a way to implement this idea is perhaps the next one. The first step: the classes (and methods) used in Smalltalk must be translated into Php (some papers show that it is possible into Java for example). The second step are about the alive objects. Because in Smalltalk the alive objects are kept in memory (in the image), a possible solution is to create each object in Php and save them in a MySql database to retrieve them through each page. 

An important point is that Php is a dynamic typed language. The convertion will be so easier than Java. 

So my question is the next one to the Seaside developers: what are the big obstacles to achieve this goal ? 

Some questions in my mind: What about continuations ? What about object reflectivity ? 

Frédéric Pluquet 
Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) 

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