[Seaside] About Deployment

David Mitchell david.mitchell at gmail.com
Tue Dec 1 16:53:44 UTC 2009

Someone else made a run at this and called it phaux. It is written in
PHP and inspired by Seaside.

There hasn't been much activity, maybe you could pick it up. Of
course, if you read his blog, you'll hear the familiar story of
Smalltalk ruining him for other languages:

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Frederic Pluquet <fpluquet at ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> Hello,
> I use Seaside for a lot of personal development and I love its rapidity of
> development! But for real deployment there is a big disadvantage. At my
> knowledge, I have only two solutions to deploy an application: have an own
> server (what I do for the moment) or put my image on seasidehosting.
> So I have a simple idea: it will be really cool if I can develop in
> Smalltalk with Seaside and I deploy the code in Php/MySql to put it in any
> common server.
> I think this idea is not so crazy. I know there is a world between Smalltalk
> and Php (I know both well) but a way to implement this idea is perhaps the
> next one. The first step: the classes (and methods) used in Smalltalk must
> be translated into Php (some papers show that it is possible into Java for
> example). The second step are about the alive objects. Because in Smalltalk
> the alive objects are kept in memory (in the image), a possible solution is
> to create each object in Php and save them in a MySql database to retrieve
> them through each page.
> An important point is that Php is a dynamic typed language. The convertion
> will be so easier than Java.
> So my question is the next one to the Seaside developers: what are the big
> obstacles to achieve this goal ?
> Some questions in my mind: What about continuations ? What about object
> reflectivity ?
> Fréd
> ----
> Frédéric Pluquet
> Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB)
> Assistant
> http://www.ulb.ac.be/di/fpluquet
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