[Seaside] fulltime seaside position

Sean Allen itjobsardis at gmail.com
Wed Feb 18 15:45:52 UTC 2009


Look forward to hearing from you.

I really wasn't trying to stir up a hornet's nest. The questions really
never even occurred to me.

-Sean-

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Victor <vmgoldberg at verizon.net> wrote:

>  >    Feel free to contact me off list and ask anything you want.
>
> I appreciate you friendly tone.
> I'll do.
>
> Víctor
>
> ===================================
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Sean Allen <itjobsardis at gmail.com>
> *To:* Seaside - general discussion <seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Seaside] fulltime seaside position
>
> Victor,
>
> Feel free to ask anything you want.
>
> I answered timezone when it was asked. I got annoyed by a question that
> suggested I was trying to hide the 'where'.
> I was trying to hide anything, I just never considered it important. I'm
> willing to answer any questions anyone has.
> >
> -Sean-
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Victor <vmgoldberg at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>  The point is that in these exchanges you appear as non-transparent,
>> non-communicative, non responsive, with a short fuse, and controlling.  If
>> it's so difficult for you to answer such a simple question as "where are you
>> located?", what should be expected to happen in future exchanges?
>>
>> You say, what does it matter?  If a person asks, for that person it's
>> important.  Your physical address shouldn't be a secret.
>> You should have been much more upfront about yourself, your company, your
>> performance track.
>>
>> Because it seems to be so much what I would like to be doing, I have
>> considered to apply for the position, but with so many open questions, I am
>> puzzled.
>>
>> Victor
>>
>> ===================================
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Sean Allen <itjobsardis at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Seaside - general discussion <seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>>  *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:27 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Seaside] fulltime seaside position
>>
>>  I've already answered plenty of questions off list. After the timezone
>> though, a geographic location for a job that
>> doesn't have a geographic location is just a little annoying. Even if it
>> leads to Avi giving me a laugh.
>>
>>   On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Boris Popov <boris at deepcovelabs.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  It does, if by EST you mean Estonia :)
>>>
>>> To be serious though, job searches are often as much about employer as
>>> they are about an employee. It isn't unreasonable for candidates to want
>>> to know who it is they are dealing with before they decide to apply,
>>> which is why lack of detail in your original message might have spawned
>>> all those questions.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> -Boris
>>>
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>>>
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>>> From: seaside-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>> [mailto:seaside-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Sean
>>> Allen
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:40 PM
>>> To: Seaside - general discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] fulltime seaside position
>>>
>>>    Its a telecommuting position. I didn't think it would matter at all
>>> as
>>> no one in the IT department works out of an office.
>>>
>>> Until yesterday we had people working from Vancouver to Paris. As of
>>> today just Vancouver to New York.
>>>
>>> There is no 'located' as its a telecommuting position and we have people
>>> all over. As long as someone can meet the job requirements, they can
>>> work on mars for all I care ( although that could make the teaching up
>>> part hard. )
>>>
>>> Seriously though, EST, NYC? Does it make a difference? Central office is
>>> NYC. I work all hours. Doesn't much matter to me.
>>> What is this timezone obsession some people have? Maybe if it wasn't
>>> mention, it wasn't considered important?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Victor <vmgoldberg at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>        Hi Sean,
>>>
>>>        It seems like you are trying to avoid saying where are you
>>> located.  Is this the case? If so, why?
>>>
>>>
>>>        Victor
>>>
>>>        ===============================
>>>
>>>                ----- Original Message -----
>>>                  From: Sean Allen <mailto:itjobsardis at gmail.com>
>>>                To: Seaside - general discussion
>>> <mailto:seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>>>                 Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:45 PM
>>>                Subject: Re: [Seaside] fulltime seaside position
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima
>>> <yoshiki at vpri.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>                        At Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:27:35 -0500,
>>>
>>>                        Sean Allen wrote:
>>>                        >
>>>                        > doesn't telecommuting cover that?
>>>
>>>
>>>                         But the potential candidates might like to know
>>> in what timezone he
>>>                        is supposed to be available for prompt
>>> responses.  (I'm not applying,
>>>                        but^^;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                EST.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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