[Seaside] Sql Admin & Email apps?

[David Mitchell]

If you use an image (like Dabble) you'll just use objects and
collections. Save the image at critical points.

See Ramon's blog for a lightweight image-based solution:

http://onsmalltalk.com/sandstonedb-simple-activerecord-style-persistence-in-squeak

Magma will give you more complexity but more flexibility.

All of the above will use Smalltalk collections for adding, removing,
and simple querying.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Kevin Ar18 <kevinar18 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> SQL is not a requirement...  just need something db like where I can attach
> new data, filter, etc... like in SQL, like in DabbleDB.
>
>> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:32:09 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Sql Admin & Email apps?
>> From: david.mitchell at gmail.com
>> To: seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>
>> Note that DabbleDB doesn't use an SQL backend. Basically every session
>> gets an image.
>>
>> Celeste is a single user Squeak email client. You might want to look
>> at putting a web front-end on it.
>>
>> SQL will lead to ORM which will mean GLORP. If you are OK with
>> Postgres, you're OK in Squeak. Otherwise look at SqueakDBX. See
>> discussion this week on squeak-dev.
>>
>> If you aren't wed to SQL, there are image + logging (like Prevayler).
>> See Ramon Leon's OnSmalltalk blog.
>>
>> Also take a look at Magma. A good app to review is Gjallar (issue
>> tracker). Magma docs are on the wiki.
>>
>> 2009/3/25 Kevin Ar18 <kevinar18 at hotmail.com>:
>> > Basically, I am wondering whether someone has made the following in
>> > Smalltalk/AIDA/Seaside:
>> > * An SQL/db administration app ... similar to phpmyadmin... or even
>> > better,
>> > similar to DabbleDB (http://dabbledb.com/demo/)
>> > * An email app
>> > * all open source
>> >
>> > Now for the long details:
>> >
>> > I would like to have some kind of app that allows me to manage a list of
>> > contacts in a database like fashion (where I can add new table columns
>> > and
>> > add new data to people).  Yet, at the same time, I would like to program
>> > in
>> > more features over time.  For example, I would like to integrate the
>> > database with a web based email system.  Instead of having one inbox,
>> > I'd
>> > have one inbox per contact in my database.  I can then add more features
>> > over time, like a notification if someone never responds to an email,
>> > and so
>> > on....
>> > In fact, I eventually would like to extend the database aspect to have
>> > some
>> > visual views of the data and who knows what else.
>> >
>> > So, I figured I could use a web framework.  Then take a pre-built sql
>> > admin app and a pre-built email system and combine the two with minimal
>> > effort.  In fact, if I was using PHP, that is exactly what I'd do; I
>> > would
>> > find the two apps and combine them, since it would save me so much time.
>> >
>> > Are there any "PostgreSQL admin" apps or "email apps" already made
>> > using Smalltalk or would I have to build a sql admin and a browser based
>> > email all from "scratch"?
>> > Has anyone done any work on an open source app similar to DabbleDB?
>> >
>> > Or... perhaps, there is some other way that I can build what I need?
>> > like a
>> > CMS?
>> >
>> > Would it help if I explained the concept in more detail or if I asked
>> > this
>> > in a different mailing list?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Kevin
>> >
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