[Seaside] Sql Admin & Email apps?
david.mitchell at gmail.com
Wed Mar 25 17:47:32 UTC 2009
If you use an image (like Dabble) you'll just use objects and
collections. Save the image at critical points.
See Ramon's blog for a lightweight image-based solution:
Magma will give you more complexity but more flexibility.
All of the above will use Smalltalk collections for adding, removing,
and simple querying.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Kevin Ar18 <kevinar18 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> SQL is not a requirement... just need something db like where I can attach
> new data, filter, etc... like in SQL, like in DabbleDB.
>> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:32:09 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Sql Admin & Email apps?
>> From: david.mitchell at gmail.com
>> To: seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> Note that DabbleDB doesn't use an SQL backend. Basically every session
>> gets an image.
>> Celeste is a single user Squeak email client. You might want to look
>> at putting a web front-end on it.
>> SQL will lead to ORM which will mean GLORP. If you are OK with
>> Postgres, you're OK in Squeak. Otherwise look at SqueakDBX. See
>> discussion this week on squeak-dev.
>> If you aren't wed to SQL, there are image + logging (like Prevayler).
>> See Ramon Leon's OnSmalltalk blog.
>> Also take a look at Magma. A good app to review is Gjallar (issue
>> tracker). Magma docs are on the wiki.
>> 2009/3/25 Kevin Ar18 <kevinar18 at hotmail.com>:
>> > Basically, I am wondering whether someone has made the following in
>> > Smalltalk/AIDA/Seaside:
>> > * An SQL/db administration app ... similar to phpmyadmin... or even
>> > better,
>> > similar to DabbleDB (http://dabbledb.com/demo/)
>> > * An email app
>> > * all open source
>> > Now for the long details:
>> > I would like to have some kind of app that allows me to manage a list of
>> > contacts in a database like fashion (where I can add new table columns
>> > and
>> > add new data to people). Yet, at the same time, I would like to program
>> > in
>> > more features over time. For example, I would like to integrate the
>> > database with a web based email system. Instead of having one inbox,
>> > I'd
>> > have one inbox per contact in my database. I can then add more features
>> > over time, like a notification if someone never responds to an email,
>> > and so
>> > on....
>> > In fact, I eventually would like to extend the database aspect to have
>> > some
>> > visual views of the data and who knows what else.
>> > So, I figured I could use a web framework. Then take a pre-built sql
>> > admin app and a pre-built email system and combine the two with minimal
>> > effort. In fact, if I was using PHP, that is exactly what I'd do; I
>> > would
>> > find the two apps and combine them, since it would save me so much time.
>> > Are there any "PostgreSQL admin" apps or "email apps" already made
>> > using Smalltalk or would I have to build a sql admin and a browser based
>> > email all from "scratch"?
>> > Has anyone done any work on an open source app similar to DabbleDB?
>> > Or... perhaps, there is some other way that I can build what I need?
>> > like a
>> > CMS?
>> > Would it help if I explained the concept in more detail or if I asked
>> > this
>> > in a different mailing list?
>> > Thanks,
>> > Kevin
>> > ________________________________
>> > Windows Live™ SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. Check it out.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > seaside mailing list
>> > seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside
>> seaside mailing list
>> seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Find out
More information about the seaside