[Seaside] rails niceties equivalents?

James Robertson jrobertson at cincom.com
Mon May 18 13:27:56 UTC 2009

We have deployed Seaside (2.8) for our Support resolutions app:


and we've had no scalability issues.  On Smalltalk web apps more  
generally, the entire Cincom Smalltalk website is Smalltalk powered,  
and the only scaling issues we ever had were due to bad code on my  
part - I was able to patch those on the fly with caching solutions.   
The same approach ought to work for a Seaside app; if you used a  
database back end (using Web Velocity, for instance), you could have  
your app cache results, only hitting the database when there were  
actual changes to deal with.

James Robertson
Cincom Smalltalk Product Evangelist
Talk Small and Carry a Big Class Library

On May 18, 2009, at 1:37 AM, Eagle Offshore wrote:

> OK, one piece of the puzzle.  The other missing one is "how do I  
> scale a Seaside application"?
> People claim to have worked it out for themselves, but nobody is  
> writing it up as a ready to use recipe.
> There's no point in writing an app that can't easily scale to a few  
> hundred users.
> FWIW, Phillippe, you've just about convinced me to unsubscribe and  
> give up on Seaside.  Clearly its never going to fit my "small but  
> growing business web site/shop/information system" use case because  
> its developers clearly don't want it to.
> On May 17, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Philippe Marschall wrote:
>> Not anymore, instead of writing an awful lot of mails that don't get
>> anything done I sat for an hour and hacked something together:
>> http://www.squeaksource.com/SeasideMVC.html
>> (requires Seaside 2.9)
>> Now prove me wrong:
>> Use, test it, document it, develop it, deploy it, extend it, hire
>> Lukas or Julian or write your own. Do nothing and you prove me right.
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