[Seaside] Komanche ?

Sun Oct 11 19:52:18 UTC 2009

I'm hardly what you would call knowledgeable in UNIX lol. Umm.. I just types that statement in and it went to a blank prompt.

I've actually had this problem over the last eight months or so... ever since I started learning Smalltalk and Seaside and friends. What I've noticed is that I'll try requesting something from the server on a given port and it simply won't respond. Uh, I'll let the mailing list know next time it happens, but the last time it's happened to me was a week or two ago and my computer had been on standby for a while if that matters. This is not to say it exclusively occurs after being on standby, only the most recent circumstance I can recall.

I even have a whole list of adapters that I've used in the past. All I do is stop the previous one and start a new one lol.

RS

Let me know if you need any logs or whatever and how to get them - I'm a noob :)

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:18:55 +0100
Subject: Re: [Seaside] Komanche ?
From: ramiro at diaztrepat.name
To: seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org; Pharo-project at lists.gforge.inria.fr

Robert, can you see your port still listening with this command ?

sudo lsof -i -P | grep -i listen

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Ramiro Diaz Trepat <ramiro at diaztrepat.name> wrote:

Ah, if Robert still has an image with the issue and if he does not mind giving it away for autopsy, maybe someone could look at it :)
May be John Macintosh can help us.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Robert Sirois <watchlala at hotmail.com> wrote:

I'm running the latest mac vm as well. I believe I attempted the same things to no avail.

RS

> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:39:37 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Komanche ?

> From: renggli at gmail.com
> To: seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> 
> I use the same configuration with the 4.1.1beta2U VM.

> 
> Lukas
> 
> 2009/10/11 Ramiro Diaz Trepat <ramiro at diaztrepat.name>:
> > Correlation does not mean causality, I know.  But in my case this happened

> > right after saving my image, although I had saved it many times before
> > without issues.
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Ramiro Diaz Trepat <ramiro at diaztrepat.name>

> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Lukas,
> >> I am using the latest Pharo, and I have loaded Seaside with ScriptLoader
> >> loadSeaside30. I am using it on a Mac with Leopard.

> >> I have managed to reuse that port, with random tests and I do not believe
> >> there may be causality here, but I will tell you anyway what I did.
> >> When this happens, I removed the problematic adaptor from the Seaside

> >> Control Panel and created a new one (on the same port), then I tried closing
> >> the image and restarting and it did not fix the problem.  Although when I
> >> closed another non Seaside image I was running and then restarted the

> >> problematic image it worked.
> >> I wonder now if it is not a mac vm issue or socket issue.  Robert, are you
> >> also running on a mac?
> >> In spite I got the image working again, it is quite worring because we

> >> don't know the cause when an image stops answering requests (although the
> >> image itself was not hanged at all and kept working fine), and, most weird
> >> of all, there is no exception or trace of a fault happening.  This is really

> >> what is making me wonder if it is not a low level socket issue that never
> >> gets to the image for it to throw an exception or anything at all.
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> r

> >>
> >> ps: I'm cross posting to Pharo because I believe this is not a Seaside
> >> issue.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Robert Sirois <watchlala at hotmail.com>

> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm using Pharo 1.0.10419, but I'm not sure how to check the other two. I
> >>> think I'm still running 2.9 in the image I checked.

> >>>
> >>> RS
> >>>
> >>> > Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:30:37 +0200
> >>> > Subject: Re: [Seaside] Komanche ?
> >>> > From: renggli at gmail.com

> >>> > To: seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> >>> >
> >>> > I've never seen this problem before.

> >>> >
> >>> > What version of Pharo? Kom? Seaside?
> >>> >
> >>> > Lukas
> >>> >
> >>> > 2009/10/11 Robert Sirois <watchlala at hotmail.com>:

> >>> > > I've also had this problem for quite a while now and have not found
> >>> > > any way to fix the problem either.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > RS

> >>> > >
> >>> > > Ramiro Diaz Trepat <ramiro at diaztrepat.name> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >>Something really strange happened to me more than once now.In a

> >>> > >> simple dev
> >>> > >>image (Pharo + Seaside3 + Kom on a Mac) after saving the image at
> >>> > >> some
> >>> > >>point, Komanche stops answering anything at all, althought the port

> >>> > >> keeps
> >>> > >>listening (as listed on a terminal).
> >>> > >>No errors are displayed anywere but the port becomes unusable from
> >>> > >> that

> >>> > >>point on.
> >>> > >>If I wish to continue using the same image I have to add another
> >>> > >> adaptor in
> >>> > >>the Seaside Control Panel and start again.

> >>> > >>The "dead" ports never become usable again, not even stopping and
> >>> > >> removing
> >>> > >>the adaptor and adding a new one.

> >>> > >>I am not even sure that this is a Komanche issue, as I said no error
> >>> > >> of
> >>> > >>anykind is visible.
> >>> > >>Has anyone come across this before?

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