[Seaside] Komanche ?

Sun Oct 11 19:56:10 UTC 2009

Did you open another image with the same VM? There is a wired behavior  
of the Mac VM that makes the second image listen on the same ports as  
the already running image. This may (or may not) be related.

See http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2009-June/002726.html

Adrian

On Oct 11, 2009, at 17:18 , Ramiro Diaz Trepat wrote:

> Robert, can you see your port still listening with this command ?
>
> sudo lsof -i -P | grep -i listen
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Ramiro Diaz Trepat
> <ramiro at diaztrepat.name>wrote:
>
>> Ah, if Robert still has an image with the issue and if he does not  
>> mind
>> giving it away for autopsy, maybe someone could look at it :)May be  
>> John
>> Macintosh can help us.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Robert Sirois  
>> <watchlala at hotmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I'm running the latest mac vm as well. I believe I attempted the  
>>> same
>>> things to no avail.
>>>
>>> RS
>>>
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:39:37 +0200
>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Komanche ?
>>>> From: renggli at gmail.com
>>>> To: seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>>>
>>>> I use the same configuration with the 4.1.1beta2U VM.
>>>>
>>>> Lukas
>>>>
>>>> 2009/10/11 Ramiro Diaz Trepat <ramiro at diaztrepat.name>:
>>>>> Correlation does not mean causality, I know.  But in my case this
>>> happened
>>>>> right after saving my image, although I had saved it many times  
>>>>> before
>>>>> without issues.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Ramiro Diaz Trepat <
>>> ramiro at diaztrepat.name>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Lukas,
>>>>>> I am using the latest Pharo, and I have loaded Seaside with
>>> ScriptLoader
>>>>>> loadSeaside30. I am using it on a Mac with Leopard.
>>>>>> I have managed to reuse that port, with random tests and I do not
>>> believe
>>>>>> there may be causality here, but I will tell you anyway what I  
>>>>>> did.
>>>>>> When this happens, I removed the problematic adaptor from the  
>>>>>> Seaside
>>>>>> Control Panel and created a new one (on the same port), then I  
>>>>>> tried
>>> closing
>>>>>> the image and restarting and it did not fix the problem.   
>>>>>> Although
>>> when I
>>>>>> closed another non Seaside image I was running and then  
>>>>>> restarted the
>>>>>> problematic image it worked.
>>>>>> I wonder now if it is not a mac vm issue or socket issue.   
>>>>>> Robert,
>>> are you
>>>>>> also running on a mac?
>>>>>> In spite I got the image working again, it is quite worring  
>>>>>> because
>>> we
>>>>>> don't know the cause when an image stops answering requests  
>>>>>> (although
>>> the
>>>>>> image itself was not hanged at all and kept working fine), and,  
>>>>>> most
>>> weird
>>>>>> of all, there is no exception or trace of a fault happening.   
>>>>>> This is
>>> really
>>>>>> what is making me wonder if it is not a low level socket issue  
>>>>>> that
>>> never
>>>>>> gets to the image for it to throw an exception or anything at  
>>>>>> all.
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> r
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ps: I'm cross posting to Pharo because I believe this is not a
>>> Seaside
>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Robert Sirois <
>>> watchlala at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm using Pharo 1.0.10419, but I'm not sure how to check the  
>>>>>>> other
>>> two. I
>>>>>>> think I'm still running 2.9 in the image I checked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:30:37 +0200
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Komanche ?
>>>>>>>> From: renggli at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> To: seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've never seen this problem before.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What version of Pharo? Kom? Seaside?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2009/10/11 Robert Sirois <watchlala at hotmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>> I've also had this problem for quite a while now and have not
>>> found
>>>>>>>>> any way to fix the problem either.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> RS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ramiro Diaz Trepat <ramiro at diaztrepat.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Something really strange happened to me more than once  
>>>>>>>>>> now.In a
>>>>>>>>>> simple dev
>>>>>>>>>> image (Pharo + Seaside3 + Kom on a Mac) after saving the  
>>>>>>>>>> image
>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> point, Komanche stops answering anything at all, althought  
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> port
>>>>>>>>>> keeps
>>>>>>>>>> listening (as listed on a terminal).
>>>>>>>>>> No errors are displayed anywere but the port becomes unusable
>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> point on.
>>>>>>>>>> If I wish to continue using the same image I have to add  
>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>> adaptor in
>>>>>>>>>> the Seaside Control Panel and start again.
>>>>>>>>>> The "dead" ports never become usable again, not even stopping
>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> removing
>>>>>>>>>> the adaptor and adding a new one.
>>>>>>>>>> I am not even sure that this is a Komanche issue, as I said  
>>>>>>>>>> no
>>> error
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> anykind is visible.
>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone come across this before?
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