[Seaside] Komanche ?

Sun Oct 11 20:06:51 UTC 2009

Hi Adrian,
I did open both images with the same VM.   I am sure this must be the
problem then.  As I said in one of the mails, the problem in my case went
away when I bounced all the images.
It only happens in the Mac VM then?
Do we need to report this bug somewhere or is it already reported?
Cheers

r

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi at netstyle.ch> wrote:

> Did you open another image with the same VM? There is a wired behavior of
> the Mac VM that makes the second image listen on the same ports as the
> already running image. This may (or may not) be related.
>
> See
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2009-June/002726.html
>
> Adrian
>
>
> On Oct 11, 2009, at 17:18 , Ramiro Diaz Trepat wrote:
>
>  Robert, can you see your port still listening with this command ?
>>
>> sudo lsof -i -P | grep -i listen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Ramiro Diaz Trepat
>> <ramiro at diaztrepat.name>wrote:
>>
>>  Ah, if Robert still has an image with the issue and if he does not mind
>>> giving it away for autopsy, maybe someone could look at it :)May be John
>>> Macintosh can help us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Robert Sirois <watchlala at hotmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>  I'm running the latest mac vm as well. I believe I attempted the same
>>>> things to no avail.
>>>>
>>>> RS
>>>>
>>>>  Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:39:37 +0200
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Subject: Re: [Seaside] Komanche ?
>>>>> From: renggli at gmail.com
>>>>> To: seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>>>>
>>>>> I use the same configuration with the 4.1.1beta2U VM.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/10/11 Ramiro Diaz Trepat <ramiro at diaztrepat.name>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Correlation does not mean causality, I know.  But in my case this
>>>>>>
>>>>> happened
>>>>
>>>>> right after saving my image, although I had saved it many times before
>>>>>> without issues.
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Ramiro Diaz Trepat <
>>>>>>
>>>>> ramiro at diaztrepat.name>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Lukas,
>>>>>>> I am using the latest Pharo, and I have loaded Seaside with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ScriptLoader
>>>>
>>>>> loadSeaside30. I am using it on a Mac with Leopard.
>>>>>>> I have managed to reuse that port, with random tests and I do not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> believe
>>>>
>>>>> there may be causality here, but I will tell you anyway what I did.
>>>>>>> When this happens, I removed the problematic adaptor from the Seaside
>>>>>>> Control Panel and created a new one (on the same port), then I tried
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> closing
>>>>
>>>>> the image and restarting and it did not fix the problem.  Although
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> when I
>>>>
>>>>> closed another non Seaside image I was running and then restarted the
>>>>>>> problematic image it worked.
>>>>>>> I wonder now if it is not a mac vm issue or socket issue.  Robert,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> are you
>>>>
>>>>> also running on a mac?
>>>>>>> In spite I got the image working again, it is quite worring because
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> we
>>>>
>>>>> don't know the cause when an image stops answering requests (although
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> image itself was not hanged at all and kept working fine), and, most
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> weird
>>>>
>>>>> of all, there is no exception or trace of a fault happening.  This is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> really
>>>>
>>>>> what is making me wonder if it is not a low level socket issue that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> never
>>>>
>>>>> gets to the image for it to throw an exception or anything at all.
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ps: I'm cross posting to Pharo because I believe this is not a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seaside
>>>>
>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Robert Sirois <
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> watchlala at hotmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm using Pharo 1.0.10419, but I'm not sure how to check the other
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> two. I
>>>>
>>>>> think I'm still running 2.9 in the image I checked.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:30:37 +0200
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Komanche ?
>>>>>>>>> From: renggli at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> To: seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've never seen this problem before.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What version of Pharo? Kom? Seaside?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2009/10/11 Robert Sirois <watchlala at hotmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've also had this problem for quite a while now and have not
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>
>>>>> any way to fix the problem either.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> RS
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ramiro Diaz Trepat <ramiro at diaztrepat.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Something really strange happened to me more than once now.In a
>>>>>>>>>>> simple dev
>>>>>>>>>>> image (Pharo + Seaside3 + Kom on a Mac) after saving the image
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>
>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>> point, Komanche stops answering anything at all, althought the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> port
>>>>
>>>>> keeps
>>>>>>>>>>> listening (as listed on a terminal).
>>>>>>>>>>> No errors are displayed anywere but the port becomes unusable
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> point on.
>>>>>>>>>>> If I wish to continue using the same image I have to add another
>>>>>>>>>>> adaptor in
>>>>>>>>>>> the Seaside Control Panel and start again.
>>>>>>>>>>> The "dead" ports never become usable again, not even stopping
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> removing
>>>>>>>>>>> the adaptor and adding a new one.
>>>>>>>>>>> I am not even sure that this is a Komanche issue, as I said no
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> error
>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> anykind is visible.
>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone come across this before?
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