[Seaside] Seaside, AJAX, and Iliad

Tony Fleig tony.fleig at gmail.com
Wed Dec 1 19:45:31 UTC 2010


Wow I'm glad I asked. I'll give JQAjaxifierLibrary a try.

Thanks a lot.
TF

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com> wrote:

> > Seaside's wonderful back-button management with continuations breaks when
> > AJAX is used. Iliad has a "different" back-button approach (which is not
> > clearly defined anywhere that I could find).
> > Is there any chance that Seaside could acquire markDirty functionality
> and
> > "automatic" AJAX callbacks like Iliad? I really like Seaside's
> completeness
> > and well-documented features, but I find myself drawn to Iliad instead
> > because for Web-2.0-style apps the out-of-the-box (default) user
> experience
> > is so much better.
> > Am I off-base here? Have I missed something important in my analysis?
>
> Well, Seaside 3.0 has the JQAjaxifierLibrary built in, see
>
>   http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/blog/ajaxification
>   http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/blog/ajaxification-faq
>
> I have been using successfully using this approach in various
> industrial applications since 2007 with PrototypeJS and later with
> JQuery. Albeit it has not gained much popularity in the wider Seaside
> community, I personally find it very elegant for the following
> reasons:
>
> 1. You develop a normal application, you get an AJAX application for free.
>
> 2. You do not need to mark components as dirty.
>
> 3. You keep the full flexibility of how you structure your HTML.
>
> 4. You keep the full flexibility of doing custom AJAX actions if
> necessary (e.g. to optimize certain updates).
>
> Lukas
>
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