[Seaside] [Fwd: Re: [Moose-dev] Re: why Glamour configuration
is loading Refactoring and all the rest?]
Dale Henrichs
dhenrich at vmware.com
Fri May 28 19:12:06 UTC 2010
Doru,
Duh...I finally understand:) Usually the third time is the charm!
Okay, now I even remember why....Julian used Grease when he ported
Magritte to VisualAge which turned into Magritte2....
I can fix that right away...I'll publish a new version of
ConfigurationOfMagritte that does the right thing:)
Thanks for your patience,
Dale
Tudor Girba wrote:
> Hi Dale,
>
>> Ah okay ... then you _were_ getting RB-Core because of Grease
>> because of Seaside3.0 because of Magritte-Seaside:)
>
> Nope. I do not load Magritte-Seaside. I only load Magritte-Model,
> Magritte-Morph and Magritte-Tests directly in my configuration. It's
> just that it needs Grease (I forgot why).
>
>> I should change the default in the ConfigurationOfMagritte[2] to
>> load the Magritte packages only with a separate group for Magritte-
>> Seaside ... I had done things like that for GemStone, but I don't
>> recall why I didn't do the same for Pharo...
>>
>> Grease has a similar issue ... what should be loaded by default? ...
>> right now the answer is everything, but moving forward that isn't
>> appropriate...
>
> Sure. I was not complaining. It was just a question why it needs to
> load RB-Core :).
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>> Dale
>>
>> Tudor Girba wrote:
>>> Hi Dale,
>>> I do not want Seaside 3.0, only Grease which is apparently needed
>>> by Magritte. I am loading Magritte package by package because I
>>> only need Model, Morph and Tests.
>>> The problem is that ConfigurationOfGrease loads RB-Core, which I
>>> guess should not necessarily happen. Or should it?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>> On 28 May 2010, at 18:43, Dale Henrichs wrote:
>>>> Doru,
>>>>
>>>> Ah, so you _want_ Seaside3.0 loaded:)
>>>>
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>> Hi Dale,
>>>>> I let your mail through this morning. The problem is that RB-
>>>>> Core is loaded in ConfigurationOfGrease. Please see my reply
>>>>> from the seaside mailing list and the mail from Julian.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Doru
>>>>> On 28 May 2010, at 18:13, Dale Henrichs wrote:
>>>>>> Tudor,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I replied last night but my reply to Moose list bounced...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Moose-dev] Re: why Glamour configuration is
>>>>>> loading Refactoring and all the rest?
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:16:29 -0700
>>>>>> From: Dale Henrichs <dhenrich at vmware.com>
>>>>>> To: Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck at gmail.com>
>>>>>> CC: Related to the development of Moose and other related tools <moose-dev at iam.unibe.ch
>>>>>> References: <C70F7B35-4F97-4437-9760-E1916A8DCBE8 at inria.fr> <AANLkTik9a_pyLToaHZuFEJIlLi601Dk-AqlFRZwjzY7X at mail.gmail.com
>>>>>>> <AANLkTinNTjJG7lp_GbW0UHt5ytfu1_5N-uHyfm3-uud8 at mail.gmail.com> <AA66B7BA-0C67-46DC-9B5F-37387163FCEF at inria.fr
>>>>>>> <5A6D62FD-2C96-4A23-A982-1C6512EDBA8E at gmail.com> <AANLkTik0ljGZMsSPpFrMroDZhTyz0Oet0XQ1eLZrzkJr at mail.gmail.com
>>>>>> Mariano,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Refactoring-Core is used by SLIME and SLIME is unconditionally
>>>>>> loaded
>>>>>> for Seaside3.0 ... I think that for at least the short term it was
>>>>>> decided that loading _ALL_ of Seaside3.0 was better than having
>>>>>> folks
>>>>>> random pieces ... by default Magritte2 loads Magritte-Seaside
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> pulls in the whole enchilada.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can just arrange to have just Magritte-Model loaded (without
>>>>>> Magritte-Seaside) by just loading #('Magritte-Model')...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dale
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>>>>>> dale?
>>>>>>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:tudor.girba at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I do not know. This is what the ConfigurationOfGrease says:
>>>>>>> ConfigurationOfGrease>>version10alpha91: spec
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> spec project: 'Refactoring-Core' with: '1.3'.
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>> On 27 May 2010, at 18:56, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>> On May 27, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:tudor.girba at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Glamour is loading Magritte which loads Grease which loads the
>>>>>>> RB. Is this a problem?
>>>>>>> Seeing completely from outside and without knowing anything,
>>>>>>> I don't understand why Grease, as a compatible layer
>>>>>>> framework (or whatever it is) should load RB by default.
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse at inria.fr
>>>>>>> <mailto:stephane.ducasse at inria.fr>> wrote:
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