[Seaside] Should I become a Seasider?

Daniel Lyons fusion at storytotell.org
Sat Apr 9 20:39:51 UTC 2011

On Apr 9, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Sean Allen wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert at hartl.name> wrote:
>> Am 09.04.2011 um 15:02 schrieb Sean Allen:
>>> plication". The difference I like to make is where the focus in
>>> development lies.
>>>> A solution for a "web presentation" site focusses mainly on the design. Here you will have a designer that designs "pages" in photoshop. A common way is to create templates that bring the photoshop design to the web. You concentrate on pages and usually you need a lot of markup in order to come close to the photoshop design. Seaside does not fit perfectly into this scenario. But I would assume that a lot of your customers just want a "web presentation".
>>> Off topic here... but this method of doing presentational development
>>> using photoshop has always struck me as the equivalent of using uml to
>>> design you entire application ahead of time w/o any consideration of
>>> the language platform etc.
>> It works quite well if you have a couple of pages that have just links between them and not that much dynamism. It just does not work well if you cross the border towards applications. In this area designers are exactly like programmers. Programmers want to program and designers want to design. Both leads to heavy change rates.
> I've found it leads to designs that are great for print and usually
> sucks for the web especially as a photoshop file is not going to
> represent the possibilities of different browsers and can't do any
> dynamic elements of the page at all.

I have noticed similar things. People with many years of design experience or who went to school for design ages ago and didn't stay up-to-date are particularly bad. Interaction design is very important and not taught everywhere or as part of every school's design program. But hopefully that's changing. It would be hard to get a job doing nothing but print design today, I think.

Daniel Lyons

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