[Seaside] saving an image while serving

Sebastian Sastre sebastian at flowingconcept.com
Mon Apr 18 13:44:37 UTC 2011

ok, then our dear squeaksource is an anti-example on that too

On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Philippe Marschall wrote:

> 2011/4/18 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek at eranova.si>:
>> Hi guys,
>> Let me support Nevin claims strongly with my the same experiences with
>> image based persistency. Anyone just enough pragmatic and with a bit of
>> probability calculus can soon discover, how right Nevin is.
>> I know that from my experience, ok, with VisualWorks images, which
>> snapshot every hour. One such sole image hosts 50+ sites and in last 8
>> years without any loss of data. We have just few crashes (around 2-4 per
>> year) because of DOS attacks, and that's all.
>> It is true that there is 1 hour window to loose data and that we had
>> luck loosing nothing during those few (mostly nightly) crashes, but when
>> I compare that with horror stories of friends using, say MySql...
>> Of course such image is backup every hour, every night - just plain
>> usual safety measures therefore.
> Everyone how thinks image based persistence is a good idea please look
> at SqueakSource. Not only do you suffer from the impacts of the
> non-transactional behavior (yes, data got lost several times in the
> past, the image hangs for quite some time when saving) you'll also
> never be able to switch to a new version of your dialect and you are
> limited to one image doing the processing.
> Cheers
> Philippe
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