[Seaside] Time to retire freenode IRC channel #seaside?

Germán Arduino garduino at gmail.com
Mon Jan 17 21:19:55 UTC 2011


I'm one that from time to time tried to help and needed to ask things
in #seaside, and agree that in busy days is not possible to follow.

Also agree with the StackOverflow option, seems more accurated in the
current times.

Cheers.
Germán.


2011/1/17 Sebastian Sastre <sebastian at flowingconcept.com>:
> yes.
> What's more, StackOverflow makes a reputation on you and that could be quite
> valuable for employment interviews or things of the matter.
> Here is the link to the seaside tag:
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/seaside
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 17, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>
> I agree with Julian, IRC does work for Seaside. Obviously nobody has
> time to constantly watch for incoming questions (which kind of makes
> sense to me). In the past I tried to go in and answer open questions
> every now and then, but that is obviously not the idea of IRC.
>
> Note that we get quite a few questions on stackoverflow.com that
> potentially have a much wider visibility in non-Smalltalk communities.
> If a Seaside question pops up I get notified. IMHO it would give
> Seaside more exposure if more people contributed, wrote answers,
> commented and voted.
>
> Lukas
>
> On Monday, 17 January 2011, Julian Fitzell <jfitzell at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't use IRC. I've tried it but never liked it and I find it a
>
> burden to follow. So I'm afraid you won't find me in there any time
>
> soon...
>
> If people want to have an IRC channel, however, that's simply a matter
>
> of there being enough community interest to populate it. If there
>
> isn't such interest from the community, then we should definitely
>
> "retire" it (not that I have any idea how one even does that :) ).
>
> Julian
>
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Sebastian Sastre
>
> <sebastian at flowingconcept.com> wrote:
>
> whatever.
>
> I mean: we failed to create a culture of being friendly one to each other on
> IRC. We don't even show signals of even wanting that. So retiring it will
> have zero impact.
>
> Actually retiring it may have 2 cents of positive value (because of
> expectations).
>
> The email list works just fine but it's too formal for certain on the fly
> questions that exists in every community. The thing is that the email is
> just too "on the record" to make people comfortable to ask stupid questions
> (that everybody have from time to time and are perfectly normal, even fun
> and should be asked harmlessly)
>
> But if nobody gives a shit about an environment comfortable for that, then
> it has sense to retire it so new people at least isn't confused about having
> the hope of get an answer when they are asking there
>
>
>
> On Jan 17, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Ken Causey wrote:
>
> I wonder if you are aware that there is an IRC channel for Seaside?  If
>
> you have any interest in the viability of IRC for support and discussion
>
> of Seaside I suggest it's time you start using this channel.
>
> Weeks have gone by with no discussion with the exception of questions
>
> that go completely unanswered.  Having a channel that is not used is
>
> merely misguiding to those who check opensource IRC channels for support
>
> options.  If this channel is not used more soon I strongly suggest that
>
> it simply be deleted as it is hurting more than it helps in my opinion.
>
> Ken
>
> P.S. Yes, I hang out there but it has been years since I have used
>
> Seaside and I'm there primarily to try to keep some connection with the
>
> current status of this project (much the same reason I'm still on this
>
> mailing list).  I'm of little or no use in helping other users with
>
> Seaside at this point much less the common questions regarding Pier, for
>
> example.
>
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