[Seaside] Heroku, Cloud9 ...

[Sebastian Sastre]

that's the thing. Is so productive that smalltalk should have one.

It's too good. Too clean. Too productive to miss. Is just we didn't find a way that works for making people perceive this.

By many people I mean enough to have a market worthy of an investment.

But everything has changed. Internet is making everything more smalltalk-ish (think javascript, ruby, etc).

That's why I said this idea deserves the startup approach.

In case you want to think it as business wouldn't be crazy to make it a rackspace kind of company that host the apps people develop in that IDE

your customers will be smalltalkers developing in your cloud because 
1. you have the right IDE (well, you'll have to have it)
2. you know how to help them scale (well, you'll have to)
3. your make the big money on scale so your prices are very low (so you are a nice guy because you help in create wealth)

There is no need of bullshit plan, you can do this instead.

and who knows, maybe you can raise less money by not having a datacenter but making some partnership with rackspace kind of companies

maybe this is bad now because is too soon to get enough traction right now (and can be good in a couple of years)

so the best thing is actually to be positive and skeptic at the same time

sebastian

o/








On Mar 2, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Avi Shefi wrote:

> I was contemplating the idea of creating this, while adding a few things which I think are crucial to such service which are non-existent today. I believe it's just a matter of time until Smalltalk will have it's own hosting environment solution.
> 
> 
> Avi.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Steven Baker <steven at stevenrbaker.com> wrote:
> I've got a lot of notes and ideas on how to do this, but I don't have
> the time yet. I really want to work on it. I think Heroku-style
> deployment for Smalltalk apps would actually be easier and more
> reliable than doing it with Rails apps (which I have tons of
> experience with).
> 
> Maybe some folks at Smalltalk Solutions want to try some evening
> hacking? I'm about a year away from being able to focus on it full
> time; but I can do part time nearly immediately.
> 
> -Steven
> 
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Sebastian Sastre
> <sebastian at flowingconcept.com> wrote:
> > well yeah but that needs a whole startup approach
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 2, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Geert Claes wrote:
> >
> >> First Heroku and now cloud9, how about a AIDA/Seaside/Iliad cloud IDE?
> >>
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