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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Why do you say its transitional? Our app validates as strict and Michel had integrated quite a few changes to make it happen. Why could we not separate the two and do the best we can to assist those who care about web standards.<BR>
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Cheers!<BR>
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-Boris<BR>
(Sent from a BlackBerry)<BR>
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----- Original Message -----<BR>
From: seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org <seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org><BR>
To: The Squeak Enterprise Aubergines Server - general discussion. <seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org><BR>
Sent: Tue Feb 13 08:49:24 2007<BR>
Subject: Re: [Seaside] Force lowercase for attributes<BR>
<BR>
2007/2/13, Boris Popov <boris@deepcovelabs.com>:<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
><BR>
> I'm away from a pc, but look for setter of onKeyDown on a body, it was cased<BR>
> like that and failed validation,<BR>
<BR>
Got that sucker.<BR>
<BR>
> but my point was that so long as protocol<BR>
> is available and manages xhtml, results should validate no matter what.<BR>
> Isn't xml just a superset of xhtml?<BR>
<BR>
It is. So attribute names are case-sensitive. But keep in mind that<BR>
Seaside uses html-compatible xhtml, which is an undocumented hack that<BR>
builds upon several undocumented hacks. As far as browsers are<BR>
concerned seaside produces html 4 transitional.<BR>
<BR>
> I was advocation for facilities to<BR>
> support both but with their own respective rulesets.<BR>
<BR>
They have both the very same ruleset:<BR>
attribute names are case-sensitive<BR>
Only in html are attribute names case insensitive.<BR>
<BR>
Philippe<BR>
<BR>
> Cheers!<BR>
><BR>
> -Boris<BR>
> (Sent from a BlackBerry)<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
> ----- Original Message -----<BR>
> From: seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org<BR>
> <seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org><BR>
> To: The Squeak Enterprise Aubergines Server - general discussion.<BR>
> <seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org><BR>
> Sent: Mon Feb 12 22:17:24 2007<BR>
> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Force lowercase for attributes<BR>
><BR>
> 2007/2/12, Boris Popov <boris@deepcovelabs.com>:<BR>
> > Then we should have WAHtmlAttributes and WAXmlAttributes, depending on<BR>
> > application's configuration?<BR>
><BR>
> I'd rather say deeding on the brush.<BR>
><BR>
> But you shouldn't have to use #attributeAt:put: anyway. I thought I<BR>
> fixed all senders in Seaside. Do I have overlooked something or do you<BR>
> miss certain attributes on certain elements?<BR>
><BR>
> Philippe<BR>
><BR>
> > -Boris<BR>
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> > From: seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org<BR>
> > [<A HREF="mailto:seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org">mailto:seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org</A>] On<BR>
> Behalf Of<BR>
> > Philippe Marschall<BR>
> > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:26 PM<BR>
> > To: The Squeak Enterprise Aubergines Server - general discussion.<BR>
> > Subject: Re: [Seaside] Force lowercase for attributes<BR>
> ><BR>
> > 2007/2/12, Boris Popov <boris@deepcovelabs.com>:<BR>
> > > XHTML's attribute names are all lower-case, so how about the following<BR>
> > > change?<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > WAHtmlAttributes>>at: keyString put: valueString<BR>
> > > valueString ifNotNil:<BR>
> > > [self attributes<BR>
> > > at: keyString asLowercase<BR>
> > > put: valueString]<BR>
> ><BR>
> > Please no, we had that once and I itentionally removed it. The problem<BR>
> > is that although that all the XHTML attribute names are lowercase that<BR>
> > is not true for all XML like RSS.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > Philippe<BR>
> ><BR>
> > > By the way, I don't Squeak, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered the<BR>
> > list<BR>
> > > with it ;)<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > This ensure that code like,<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > -Boris<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > --<BR>
> > > +1.604.689.0322<BR>
> > > DeepCove Labs Ltd.<BR>
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