Hello Philippe. Thanks for responding.<br><br>I downloaded Squeak, but I don't need to use it. Any free 'platform' that fulfills the criteria I mentioned will suffice (ie, runs on windows, a rich class and method browser, refactoring, debugging, syntax highlighting and preferably code completion, some form of source control, real sites in production).
<br><br>Thanks!<br>Jared<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/17/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Philippe Marschall</b> <<a href="mailto:philippe.marschall@gmail.com">philippe.marschall@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi<br><br>As you are currently using Squeak, is this the "platform" you want to deploy on?
<br><br>Cheers<br>Philippe<br><br>2007/4/17, Jared Nuzzolillo <<a href="mailto:jared@protoscript.net">jared@protoscript.net</a>>:<br>> Greetings friends.<br>><br>> As a web developer and passionate programmer, I am completely enamored with
<br>> dynamic languages. Sadly, I have little experience with smalltalk. I've<br>> written some toy smalltalk code in the past, but most of my relevant<br>> knowledge derives from my ruby experience and smalltalk reading material.
<br>> I've been considering delving back into smalltalk, but recent changes at<br>> work have encouraged me to delve into it sooner rather than later.<br>><br>> To get started, I skimmed some tutorials, watched some videos and downloaded
<br>> the Developer Image mentioned on this page:<br>> <a href="http://seaside.st/Download/Images/">http://seaside.st/Download/Images/</a>.<br>><br>> So, here are some questions:<br>><br>> 1. Should refactoring using the R button on the Class Browser work? As a
<br>> test, I tried to rename the stop method of the WAKom class? I get an error<br>> message to the effect of "doesNotUnderstand #getArgumentPermutation". Is<br>> there some other image I should use? I am running windows for development. I
<br>> am open to using another, free VM instead of Squeak, if it works better out<br>> of the box. I need a rich class and method browser, refactoring, debugging,<br>> syntax highlighting and preferably code completion. I don't mind installing
<br>> "packages" to the image either.<br>><br>> 2. Are there any examples of Seaside (or another, similar smalltalk based<br>> server) running heavy-load sites? What is the largest (in terms of load)
<br>> site and what sort of traffic does it receive (or alexa rating if<br>> available)? Is it trivial to set up? Part of this exercise is to determine<br>> whether moving to Smalltalk is a viable solution performance-wise as opposed
<br>> to moving to java as is currently being planned by my employer.<br>><br>> 3. I absolutely need to have good source control that will work for, say,<br>> two dozen developers working on one project. Is there some thing nice that
<br>> works with #1 above?<br>><br>> 4. Is there any educational material I just "have to" devour? A video?<br>> Tutorial or pdf? A classic text?<br>><br>> Thank you, all. I am really exciting to begin this journey, and I hoping to
<br>> get a head start from your collective wisdom.<br>><br>> Best wishes,<br>> Jared<br>><br>> ps. I realize 1 and 3 are somewhat off topic, but, since I thought there<br>> might be a "turnkey" (hate that word ;)) solution, I thought it'd be ok to
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