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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=138060023-27072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'm not sure your restriction makes sense in today's world.
You can happily run Ubuntu Server Linux in a VMWare environment on a MacBook or
other machine, and use Squeak on the native environment as a development
platform.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=138060023-27072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>GLASS (GemStone, Linux, Apache, Seaside, and Smalltalk) as
a deployment environment (instead of LAMP) will also run in a virtualized
machine. <A
href="http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/">http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/</A> is
running in a virtualized Xen domU with 768MB of RAM and a 20GB disk image. The
underlying hardware is a dual-processor Opteron 252 2.6GHz with 2GB of RAM which
also runs GemStone’s other external websites, mail, a Confluence wiki, and
DNS.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=138060023-27072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>-- Monty</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Conrad Taylor
[mailto:conradwt@gmail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 22, 2007 5:27
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Seaside - general discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Seaside]
Seaside book<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Hi, I just wouldn't want to introduce something into a book that's
not supported on all the major platforms. At this time, it doesn't
support Mac OS X but it support Linux and Windows. Also, Dolphin
Smalltalk only supports the Windows platform from my understanding.
However, it does have support Seaside 2.7 on <SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); LINE-HEIGHT: 18px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'; TEXT-ALIGN: left">Dolphin
Smalltalk X6. This is very good to hear and one can find more
information hear: </SPAN>
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<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: left"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); LINE-HEIGHT: 18px; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"><A
href="http://dolphinseaside.blogspot.com/">http://dolphinseaside.blogspot.com/
</A></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: left"><FONT class=Apple-style-span
face="'Trebuchet MS'" color=#333333><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 18px">-Conrad</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 7/22/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Boris
Popov</B> <<A
href="mailto:boris@deepcovelabs.com">boris@deepcovelabs.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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<P><FONT size=2>Except GemStone in this context is way more than just a
database, its also the execution platform for seaside itself so would have
to be accounted for throughout IMHO.<BR><BR>Cheers!<BR><BR>-Boris<BR>(Sent
from a BlackBerry)<SPAN class=q><BR><BR>----- Original Message
-----<BR>From: <A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org"
target=_blank>seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org</A> <<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target=_blank>
seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfou</A><A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org"
target=_blank>ndation.org</A>><BR>To: Seaside - general discussion <<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org"
target=_blank>seaside@lists.squeakfoundation</A><A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org" target=_blank>
.org</A>><BR>Sent: Sun Jul 22 16:58:15 2007<BR>Subject: Re: [Seaside]
Seaside book<BR><BR>Hi James, I agree with you 100% addressing all the
versions of Smalltalk. However, I would save Gemstone/S for the
database integration parts of the book but Dolphin Smalltalk would added to
the installation parts of the book. Anyway, in the outline that I
proposed, I assumed that the reader had <BR>programming proficiency but I
added the "Introduction to Smalltalk" appendix for people that do not.<BR>It
would be GREAT to incorporate something like this in the forthcoming books
on Seaside.<BR><BR>-Conrad<BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN class=q>On 7/22/07, James
Foster <<A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:Smalltalk@jgfoster.net"
target=_blank>Smalltalk@jgfoster.net</A> <<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:Smalltalk@jgfoster.net" target=_blank>
mailto:Smalltalk@jgfoster.net</A>> >
wrote:<BR><BR> I believe that all
dialects of Smalltalk that support Seaside (you
left<BR> out Dolphin and GemStone)
have a no-cost edition. It seems
that<BR> addressing each of these
alternatives would be
valuable.<BR> <BR>
James<BR> <BR>
Blake wrote:<BR> > Hey,
guys,<BR>
><BR>
> I'm creating an outline and some samples for a
Seaside book and am<BR> >
wondering: Should I concern myself with Visual Works? That is to
say:<BR> > If I base the book
on Squeak, I know everyone can get it for free
but<BR> > at the same time,
some may choose VW over Squeak for their
work.<BR>
><BR>
> How much accomodation should I make for VW?
Obviously, I'll want<BR> > to
check over the examples in VW and make sure they work, but
apart<BR> > from
that?<BR>
><BR>
>
===Blake===<BR> >
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