<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 15, 2007 4:10 AM, Michael Haupt <<a href="mailto:mhaupt@gmail.com">mhaupt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Miguel,<br><br>On Nov 15, 2007 6:23 AM, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez<br><div class="Ih2E3d"><<a href="mailto:m.coba.m@gmail.com">m.coba.m@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> I refer only to the code and not to the text. As I understand it, if you
<br>> buy a book about data structures in C, for example, you can use the<br>> techniques in it because it is meant to learn the language or the<br>> techniques. The same logic applies to the code and techniques you read
<br>> in a forum on the web. The code in the forum's threads are for learning<br>> and is common to use the code verbatim or with little modifications in<br>> your own project. You get my point.<br>><br>> Can you, please, clarify this point?
<br><br></div>here is the position you are asking for.<br><br>Of course you can use idioms from the ToDo application to demonstrate<br>how certain things work. We'd be happy if you could give appropriate<br>credit and point to the tutorial for reference. As long as you don't
<br>reuse entire parts of the application, there is no problem. If you do,<br>you will require express permission from us to do so.<br></blockquote><div><br>Ok, that's enough for me. In no way have I the intention of verbatim copy or reuse sections of your application. I just wanted to know that it is ok to use the ideas and techniques. They are very useful because it is very hard to find examples in the net about, for example, how to do a login system or how to integrate with GOODS in a full app. Of course, that is just a way to do it, but an implementation shows you not only a working example about how to solve a particular problem but also it opens your mind about the ways you could do it in a different way without using the original code. It is a sort of bootstrap for your app. That way you can begin your app and concentrate in your app's very own functionality and later, when you feel more confortable or have more experience, you can return to the code and recode it in a different way, in your own style and with better integration to your app. In fact that kind of development style is encouraged by Smalltalk.
<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>As for the tutorial *text*, any reuse of existing material is subject<br>to express permission from the authors.
</blockquote><div> </div><div>Yeah, that is the way almost all understand it. The text is copyrighted.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>This is how things are for now. We are sorting out licensing details<br>but have not yet come to a conclusion.<br></blockquote><div>I hope you can reach an agreement where the text is copyrighted but the code is available to anyone (MIT license or public domain) because:
<br>1. It would reach a wider audience<br>2. It would be most useful to people learning Seaside<br>3. It would help to promote Seaside (something we all here want)<br>4. It should be in the spirit of the academy, with the learning and knowledge diffusion as the foremost objective.
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>I hope this clarifies things.<br></blockquote><div>Yes, a lot, thank you. <br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>Best,<br><br>Michael</blockquote><div><br>Regards,<br>Miguel Cobá <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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