On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Randal L. Schwartz <<a href="mailto:merlyn@stonehenge.com">merlyn@stonehenge.com</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Ahh. You're still living in the illusion that the Web is WYSIWYG. It isn't.<br>
Different browsers render things different ways. How will your app act on a<br>
browser that's twice as wide? Half as wide?</blockquote><div><br>But do I have to know about that? Can't we create "meta-properties" that describe what we want the layout to be like under those circumstances, that are themselves built into the framework? Isn't that the type of useful abstraction Smalltalk is good at? You've already abstracted HTML...why not CSS as well? You know..."I want this component to grow to fit the page," or "I want that button to just remain that size."<br>
<br>I'm not talking about rewriting CSS in Smalltalk, just making COMMON tasks more accessible.<br><br>But, I'm probably still missing the point...boy, those 8 years in the Army sure left me out of the loop...<br>
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Properly designed web applications are *not* done using Photoshop. They're<br>
constructed using sound design principles, to adapt to their environment.<br>
</blockquote></div><br>So is there a way to...make that "easier" for mere mortals trying to throw a useful tool together for business users and use the web as a platform to avoid installation headaches and make use of the "liveliness" of Smalltalk?<br>
<br>I still just think it's all about the interface to the components, not the components themselves if you REALLY want to attract a crowd.<br><br>What I like about what you are saying is the "Model View Design" separation it would give you. It's just that the "Model View" portion is hard enough for me...let along getting a handle on the "Design" portion as well!<br>
<br>I WANT to do the right thing! I just want it to be easier!<br><br>Rob<br><br>