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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Suppose I am the vice-president and ask you:
"So?"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then, what's next?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Victor</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=avi@dabbledb.com href="mailto:avi@dabbledb.com">Avi Bryant</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org
href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org">Seaside - general
discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:22
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Seaside] the elevator pitch
for seaside</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Agreed. In fact, these days I rarely even mention
flow. Instead, I would say a key elevator pitch is "callbacks, not field
names".<BR><BR>Avi<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Lukas Renggli <<A
href="mailto:renggli@gmail.com">renggli@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">I
try to avoid mentioning continuations at all (with the exception of<BR>a
scientific talk).<BR><BR>Continuations don't add any value to a
presentation, make you look<BR>geeky and at best scare people off. Even
developers don't need to know<BR>about that internal implementation detail.
Only show how easy it is to<BR>define flow.<BR><BR>The same for persistency.
This is something commercial vendors worry about.<BR><BR>Lukas<BR>
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<DIV class=Wj3C7c><BR>On 5/3/08, Randal L. Schwartz <<A
href="mailto:merlyn@stonehenge.com">merlyn@stonehenge.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>> >From <A
href="http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/library/post/the-elevator-pitch-for-seaside.html"
target=_blank>http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/library/post/the-elevator-pitch-for-seaside.html</A><BR>><BR>>
But I think I've come up with a good elevator pitch for "why
Seaside and<BR>> not [insert other framework here]", that
centers on three key items:<BR>> abstracted control flows,
live debugging, and persistence without ORMs.<BR>><BR>> If you
have any input, leave it on the blog, or followup here. I'm
presenting<BR>> my talk in seven hours, and am trying to do some
last minute refinement.<BR>><BR>> --<BR>><BR>> Randal L.
Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095<BR>>
<<A
href="mailto:merlyn@stonehenge.com">merlyn@stonehenge.com</A>> <URL:<A
href="http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/"
target=_blank>http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/</A>><BR>>
Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc.
etc.<BR>> See <A href="http://PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com"
target=_blank>PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com</A> for onsite and open-enrollment
Perl training!<BR>>
_______________________________________________<BR>> seaside
mailing list<BR>> <A
href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org</A><BR>>
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href="http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside"
target=_blank>http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside</A><BR>><BR><BR><BR></DIV></DIV><FONT
color=#888888>--<BR>Lukas Renggli<BR><A href="http://www.lukas-renggli.ch"
target=_blank>http://www.lukas-renggli.ch</A><BR></FONT>
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