<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">mm, can't say I agree with that.<div><br></div><div>How about, -2</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>:)</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div>James Robertson</div><div>Cincom Smalltalk Product Evangelist</div><div><a href="http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView">http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView</a></div><div>Talk Small and Carry a Big Class Library</div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span></div></span></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On Jul 1, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Boris Popov wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"> +1<br> <br>Cheers! <br> <br>-Boris (via BlackBerry)</font></p><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"> <font face="Tahoma" size="2"> <b>From</b>: <a href="mailto:seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a> <seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org> <br><b>To</b>: Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> <br><b>Cc</b>: Seaside - general discussion <seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org> <br><b>Sent</b>: Tue Jul 01 10:02:44 2008<br><b>Subject</b>: Re: [Seaside] Gemstone / Smalltalk Developer <br></seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org></merlyn@stonehenge.com></seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org></font><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> <div><br></div><div><div>RSS, is just another distraction mostly. I don't use it.</div><div><br></div><div>Seriously, the Smalltalk market is so small that you can pretty much find all available ops in the US by watching vwnc, squeak, and getting onto Precision's mailing list. I'm not really seeing a reason to change that. </div><div><br></div><div>The problem with websites is they tend to accumulate a lot of out of date listings and nobody cleans them up.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(37, 38, 38); font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: 11px; "><table class="reportTable" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; border-collapse: collapse; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; border-top-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-right-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-bottom-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-left-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; width: 100%; 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margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; border-top-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-right-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-left-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0.3em; padding-right: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.3em; padding-left: 0.5em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(232, 229, 223); ">Experienced Smalltalk developer</td><td class="tableColumn2 tableCellNonNumeric reportTableFieldValue" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; border-top-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-right-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-left-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(240, 237, 230); padding-top: 0.3em; padding-right: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.3em; padding-left: 0.5em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(217, 214, 208); ">Smalltalk</td><td class="tableColumn1 tableCellNonNumeric reportTableFieldValue" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; border-top-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-right-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-left-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0.3em; padding-right: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.3em; padding-left: 0.5em; 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text-decoration: none; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; border-top-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-right-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-bottom-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-left-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; color: rgb(0, 51, 153); ">Sacramento, CA</a></td><td class="tableColumn1 tableCellNonNumeric reportTableFieldValue" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; border-top-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-right-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-left-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0.3em; padding-right: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.3em; padding-left: 0.5em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(232, 229, 223); ">Contract</td><td class="tableColumn2 tableCellNonNumeric reportTableFieldValue" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; border-top-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-right-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-left-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(240, 237, 230); padding-top: 0.3em; padding-right: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.3em; padding-left: 0.5em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(217, 214, 208); "></td><td class="tableColumn1 tableCellNonNumeric reportTableFieldValue" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; border-top-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-right-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-left-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0.3em; padding-right: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.3em; padding-left: 0.5em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(232, 229, 223); ">Name your price</td><td class="tableColumn2 tableCellNonNumeric reportTableFieldValue" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; border-top-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-right-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-left-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(240, 237, 230); padding-top: 0.3em; padding-right: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.3em; padding-left: 0.5em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(217, 214, 208); "></td><td class="tableColumn1 tableCellNonNumeric reportTableFieldValue" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; border-top-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-right-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-left-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0.3em; padding-right: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.3em; padding-left: 0.5em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(232, 229, 223); ">Robert Half Technology</td><td class="tableColumn2 tableCellNonNumeric reportTableFieldValue" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; border-top-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-right-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-left-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(240, 237, 230); padding-top: 0.3em; padding-right: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.3em; padding-left: 0.5em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(217, 214, 208); "><a target="_blank" href="http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.smalltalk/browse_thread/thread/c7c23cb910608fe0/da996a72264003ee#da996a72264003ee" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; text-decoration: none; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; border-top-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-right-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-bottom-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-left-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; color: rgb(0, 51, 153); ">groups.google.com</a></td><td class="tableColumn1 tableCellNonNumeric reportTableFieldValue" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; border-top-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-right-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-left-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; padding-top: 0.3em; padding-right: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.3em; padding-left: 0.5em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(232, 229, 223); ">From the posting on comp.lang.smalltalk: “...Name your price, but they<br style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; ">are looking for a senior level if not "expert" on smalltalk. They have<br style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; ">programmers that are working with it now and are familiar, but they<br style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; ">would like to have a very senior level person on staff. ...” 1/12/07 JTS.</td><td class="tableColumn2 tableCellNonNumeric reportTableFieldValue" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; text-align: left; vertical-align: top; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; border-top-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-right-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-left-color: rgb(158, 154, 145); border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(240, 237, 230); padding-top: 0.3em; padding-right: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.3em; padding-left: 0.5em; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(217, 214, 208); ">8 February 2007</td></tr></tbody></table></span></div><div><br></div><div>Is this really still open? February 2007? As time goes on these will accumulate like cruft and the resource gets less good. I mean, try searching Monster or Dice for Smalltalk gigs - a lot of listings that are ancient pop up. </div><div><br></div><div>I prefer to see the fresh listings on the mailing list as they are posted. I have a much higher success rate that way. The same is true for scoring Cocoa jobs BTW. I've scooped several decent gigs off the Cocoa developers list, but never connected on one that I found through conventional job postings.</div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 29, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">"Todd" == Todd Blanchard <<a href="mailto:tblanchard@mac.com">tblanchard@mac.com</a>> writes:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br>Todd> Not instead of please - I don't watch websites - too hard to track what<br>Todd> is new, I do watch email lists.<br><br>So you aren't subscribing to anything via RSS either? There are RSS<br>feeds on this site, including some very specialized entries.<br><br>I mean, if you're not even watching RSS, you make my old-school biases look<br>like I'm a web 2.0 baby. :)<br><br>-- <br>Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095<br><<a href="mailto:merlyn@stonehenge.com">merlyn@stonehenge.com</a>> <URL:<a href="http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/">http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/</a>><br>Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.<br>See <a href="http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/">http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/</a> for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>seaside mailing list<br><a href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br>http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside<br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>