What about people who join the mailing list a day too late? They&#39;d have to search the archive, which would...turn up a lot of out-of-date postings, except without the same quality of metadata, and quite possibly a bunch of entirely irrelevant postings.<br>
<br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/1/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Todd Blanchard</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:tblanchard@mac.com">tblanchard@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><span class="e" id="q_11adfac3e85bc00e_0"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div><div>RSS, is just another distraction mostly. &nbsp;I don&#39;t use it.</div><div><br></div><div>Seriously, the Smalltalk market is so small that you can pretty much find all available ops in the US by watching vwnc, squeak, and getting onto Precision&#39;s mailing list. &nbsp;I&#39;m not really seeing a reason to change that. &nbsp;</div>
<div><br></div><div>The problem with websites is they tend to accumulate a lot of out of date listings and nobody cleans them up.</div><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(37, 38, 38);font-size:11px"><table style="font-size:100%;border-collapse:collapse;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;list-style-type:none;border-top-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-right-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-bottom-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-left-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;width:100%;background-color:rgb(255, 252, 245)">
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Experienced Smalltalk developer</td><td style="font-size:100%;text-align:left;vertical-align:top;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;list-style-type:none;border-top-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-right-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-left-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;background-color:rgb(240, 237, 230);padding-top:0.3em;padding-right:0.5em;padding-bottom:0.3em;padding-left:0.5em;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-color:rgb(217, 214, 208)">
Smalltalk</td><td style="font-size:100%;text-align:left;vertical-align:top;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;list-style-type:none;border-top-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-right-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-left-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;padding-top:0.3em;padding-right:0.5em;padding-bottom:0.3em;padding-left:0.5em;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-color:rgb(232, 229, 223)">
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Contract</td><td style="font-size:100%;text-align:left;vertical-align:top;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;list-style-type:none;border-top-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-right-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-left-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;background-color:rgb(240, 237, 230);padding-top:0.3em;padding-right:0.5em;padding-bottom:0.3em;padding-left:0.5em;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-color:rgb(217, 214, 208)">
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Name your price</td><td style="font-size:100%;text-align:left;vertical-align:top;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;list-style-type:none;border-top-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-right-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-left-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;background-color:rgb(240, 237, 230);padding-top:0.3em;padding-right:0.5em;padding-bottom:0.3em;padding-left:0.5em;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-color:rgb(217, 214, 208)">
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Robert Half Technology</td><td style="font-size:100%;text-align:left;vertical-align:top;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;list-style-type:none;border-top-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-right-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-left-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;background-color:rgb(240, 237, 230);padding-top:0.3em;padding-right:0.5em;padding-bottom:0.3em;padding-left:0.5em;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-color:rgb(217, 214, 208)">
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>From the posting on comp.lang.smalltalk: "...Name your price, but they<br style="font-size:100%">are looking for a senior level if not &quot;expert&quot; on smalltalk. They have<br style="font-size:100%">programmers that are working with it now and are familiar, but they<br style="font-size:100%">
would like to have a very senior level person on staff. ..." 1/12/07 JTS.</td><td style="font-size:100%;text-align:left;vertical-align:top;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;list-style-type:none;border-top-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-right-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-left-color:rgb(158, 154, 145);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;background-color:rgb(240, 237, 230);padding-top:0.3em;padding-right:0.5em;padding-bottom:0.3em;padding-left:0.5em;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-color:rgb(217, 214, 208)">
8 February 2007</td></tr></tbody></table></span></div><div><br></div><div>Is this really still open? &nbsp;February 2007? &nbsp;As time goes on these will accumulate like cruft and the resource gets less good. &nbsp;I mean, try searching Monster or Dice for Smalltalk gigs - a lot of listings that are ancient pop up. &nbsp;</div>
<div><br></div><div>I prefer to see the fresh listings on the mailing list as they are posted. &nbsp;I have a much higher success rate that way. &nbsp;The same is true for scoring Cocoa jobs BTW. &nbsp;I&#39;ve scooped several decent gigs off the Cocoa developers list, but never connected on one that I found through conventional job postings.</div>
<div><br><div><div>On Jun 29, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
&quot;Todd&quot; == Todd Blanchard &lt;<a href="mailto:tblanchard@mac.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">tblanchard@mac.com</a>&gt; writes:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
</blockquote></blockquote><br>Todd&gt; Not instead of please - I don&#39;t watch websites - too hard to track what<br>Todd&gt; is new, I do watch email lists.<br><br>So you aren&#39;t subscribing to anything via RSS either? &nbsp;There are RSS<br>
feeds on this site, including some very specialized entries.<br><br>I mean, if you&#39;re not even watching RSS, you make my old-school biases look<br>like I&#39;m a web 2.0 baby. :)<br><br>-- <br>Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095<br>
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Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.<br>See <a href="http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/</a> for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion<br>
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