Thanks for the response and I completely agree with you that it is not Seaside's place to teach HTML. What I am looking for is the Smalltalk expressions used to create the HTML, i.e. the "receiver, message selector and arguments". For example, to display a url in HTML you would type:<font size="2"><br>
</font><pre style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><a href="<a href="http://www.w3schools.com/">http://www.w3schools.com/</a>">Visit W3Schools!</a></span><br>
<br>but in Smalltalk you would type the following in a "rendering" method:<br><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">html anchor url: '<a href="http://www.3schools.com">www.3schools.com</a>'; with: 'Visit W3Schools!'.</span><br>
<br>Now, without using CSS, you are able to change font, font-size, style etc. of the link above, but how is it done using Smalltalk expressions?<br>How, or where can I find information that will give me valid </font>"receiver, message selector and arguments"? I assume that the "receiver" will always<br>
be "html".<br><br>I hope that clarifies my question(s)? If it is a matter of just working your way through class libraries and comments (which ones?) then that<br>is what I will do. Just feels like there must be an easier way for finding the information. <br>
</pre>Thanks again in advance<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/11/25 David Mitchell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david.mitchell@gmail.com">david.mitchell@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I'm definitely not a CSS expert. But I've worked with frameworks that<br>
generate HTML before.<br>
<br>
I didn't have any trouble using our companies CSS into the apps I was<br>
generating with Seaside. Just looked at the HTML and where they wanted<br>
the div tags and then made sure that I generated to match.<br>
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On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:30 PM, John M <<a href="mailto:p3anoman@gmail.com">p3anoman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> FWIW I was/am still in the same boat and the w3schools site was a valuable<br>
> refernce on what attributes are valid for what tags etc. Its really not<br>
> Seaside's purpose to teach html, only to give a great tool for creating it<br>
> in a highly reusable fashion.<br>
><br>
> Firebug for Firefox is an extremely useful tool for letting you see your<br>
> html as rendered and showing you where your div sections end up laying out<br>
> etc. I could not get a handle on CSS until i started using it. (Firebug has<br>
> some other really useful features that you may need when you get to<br>
> working with javascript for example).<br>
><br>
> Hope this helps<br>
> John<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:04 PM, r00t uk <<a href="mailto:r00tuk@gmail.com">r00tuk@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi<br>
>><br>
>> I am hoping to get some advice on how to proceed with HTML & CSS in<br>
>> Squeak/Seaside as I am finding it a bit of a struggle to do the simple<br>
>> stuff. I do not have any prior experience with web programming, but I have<br>
>> been going through the <a href="http://w3schools.com" target="_blank">w3schools.com</a> tutorials for guidance on creating the<br>
>> #style method. Its the rendering side of things which are a bit of a<br>
>> struggle as all of the html is generated by Seaside.<br>
>><br>
>> Are there any tutorials on web programming with Seaside? I have been<br>
>> spending time getting to know Smalltalk and a bit of Seaside, but up until<br>
>> now I have not been concentrating on learning html presentation, or using<br>
>> css to manage its presentation. I am somewhat surprised that there appears<br>
>> to be no information, documentation or tutorials on rendering except for<br>
>> some information in the "HPI - An Introduction to Seaside" book. I am<br>
>> spending a lot of time looking at methods in the example and test classes,<br>
>> which I don't mind, but I somehow doubt this is the best use of time. Where<br>
>> do I need to look for information about html rendering methods and message<br>
>> values?<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks and sorry if I have completely missed some site that has relevent<br>
>> documentation.<br>
>><br>
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