Some people are looking into it:<br><a href="http://seabreeze.heeg.de/">http://seabreeze.heeg.de/</a><br><br>But if you expect the sort of hand holding you get with a commercially backed product, you should look first to Seaside on Cincom Smalltalk.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Michael Atkisson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael_atkisson@comcast.net">michael_atkisson@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Imagine you are a business programmer, although you have heard of this<br>
exciting new environment called Seaside.<br>
<br>
You would like to create forms that operate like the ones you do at work<br>
such as in Oracle Forms. On further investigation, perhaps you manage<br>
to make it through the tutorials. But when you go to do something real,<br>
behold you discover that some of the most basic components such<br>
displaying a datagrid from rows in a table are missing. Something that<br>
you probablydo on at least 50% of your forms in Oracle<br>
<br>
Next you read the mailing list to see if anyone has a solution to the<br>
problem. You discover that some people are decidely against putting<br>
anything like that in the core because of their purist inclinations.<br>
Others are simply say to go learn one of the javascript libraries<br>
and do it that way. This is also a dilema as you don't know which one<br>
would be good and this stuff isn't all that understandable to you.<br>
<br>
You don't know much about html, javascript, css, ajax, etc. and you<br>
probably don't want to spend a year figuring it all out.<br>
All you want to do is solve problems like the ones you have at work in<br>
as straightforward a way as possible.<br>
<br>
How much further do you think that person is likely to go?<br>
<br>
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