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It's all been said on my blog - about the "whys". <br /><br />But reading does not mean understanding! For that it needs the <span style="font-weight: bold;">will </span>to understand.<br /><br />The mailing list has had it's chance several times. Read History of my critics http://thesmalltalkblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/history-of-my-critics.html<br /><br />But there are far more people out there interested in Smalltalk or maybe considering to use or even using Seaside with similar problems.<br /><br />For them my comments are valuable aspects - as I was already told by email.<br /><br />If you guys here really believe that they need not document code and improve the serious issues that I have mentioned (and I have not yet really started) then Seaside won't make it out of its exotic corner. <br /><br />Just like (seen relatively) Smalltalk has never made it, because the <span style="font-weight: bold;">ParcPlace people were so damn arrogant</span> (also my own experience in the 90ies). Unfortunately.<br /><br />Again: Price goes before a fall!<br /><br /><br /><blockquote type="cite">
<p>-------- Original-Nachricht --------<br />Datum: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:41:50 -0700<br />Von: Conrad Taylor <conradwt@gmail.com><br />An: Seaside - general discussion <seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org><br />Betreff: Re: [Seaside] Four proposals to improve Seaside<br /><br /></p>
<p>Hi, I would like to say that your comments and <span style="" class="Apple-style-span">criticisms haven't done anything to nurture/evolve the Seaside framework. Furthermore, if you feel so strongly about the short comings of the Seaside framework, why haven't you done one of the following:</span></p>
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<div><font face="'Lucida Grande'" class="Apple-style-span"><span style="white-space: pre;" class="Apple-style-span">a) presented argument(s) in a constructive manner</span></font></div>
<div><font face="'Lucida Grande'" class="Apple-style-span"><span style="white-space: pre;" class="Apple-style-span">b) contributed code</span></font></div>
<div><font face="'Lucida Grande'" class="Apple-style-span"><span style="white-space: pre;" class="Apple-style-span">c) submitted bug/enhancement requests</span></font></div>
<div> <font face="'Lucida Grande'" class="Apple-style-span"><span style="white-space: pre;" class="Apple-style-span">d) all of the above<br /></span></font><br /> </div>
<div>You'll never be heard until you can do at least one of the above. Next, a blog is a cool thing to have but I wouldn't create one with rhetoric in the hopes to get something changed that's managed elsewhere. Finally, I hope that the blog works out for you and I should create one too to let my doctor know that she has been doing an awesome job. Oh wait, I can just call my doctor. OK, I can create a blog to let Apple know about a cool enhancement that I would like added to one of their Cocoa APIs. Oh wait, I can submit an enhancement request directly to Apple because they will not waste their time going to my website to track issues within their software.</div>
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<div>Just my 2 cents,</div>
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<div>-Conrad</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:04 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="http://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=55345845&t=de1876812429.1240221835.c4dcb54&to=TheSmalltalkBlog%40gmx.ch">TheSmalltalkBlog@gmx.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br /><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">
<div> There are 4 new concrete technical proposals how to improve Seaside and one more comment on my blog:<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://thesmalltalkblog.blogspot.com">http://thesmalltalkblog.blogspot.com</a> <br /><br /> Comments and critics welcome!<br /><font color="#888888"> <br />
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