<div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Ramon Leon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ramon.leon@allresnet.com">ramon.leon@allresnet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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> Subject: [Seaside] Four proposals to improve Seaside<br>
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> There are 4 new concrete technical proposals how to improve Seaside and<br>
> one more comment on my blog:<br>
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</div>What do you know, not one of them makes sense.<br>
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9. Seaside works with various web servers, WARequest is the adaptor they can<br>
all use to work with Seaside. Your criticizing Seaside because you modified<br>
Swazoo and duplicated code you also modified in Seaside. Absurd.<br>
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8, 7. Use Apache to serve up static content like every other sane person<br>
and recognize that Seaside does it for development convenience, not for<br>
handling production load that requires it to be insanely fast. The rest of<br>
the world works with files and pathnames, and for serving web content and<br>
staying compatible, so should Seaside.<br>
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6. You're over playing the accepted use of this "new" convention, yea, some<br>
people do it and just as many don't. It's an issue of personal style, not<br>
some big well known convention Seaside is ignoring. We have method<br>
protocols for a reason, we don't have to duplicate them in the method names.<br>
You want to know if something is a constructor, look at the protocol, not a<br>
naming pattern.<br>
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Ramon Leon<br>
<a href="http://onsmalltalk.com" target="_blank">http://onsmalltalk.com</a><br>
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</blockquote></div><br></div><div>Please, please, stop feeding the troll. Even if the fellow has legitimate complaints, I see no reason to engage someone too scared to use his own name, yet all too willing to accuse others by name of behaving with malice aforethought. Part of why I've enjoyed using Squeak off and on for the last thirteen years (!) at this point is that, for the most part, despite any of its flaws, I've found its community bright, friendly, and open. These threads are at best one of three; at worst, exercises in megalomaniacal hubris.<div>
<br></div><div>Here's my suggestion: the overwhelming number of "horrible problems" that have been pointed out so far (admittedly excepting documentation) can be "fixed" in about an hour using the Rewrite Tool and the Refactoring Browser. Rather than complaining so loudly about horrible conspiracies, the blogger can simply make the changes, publish a changeset or Monticello package somewhere, announce it, and let us all take a look. If the new Seaside is better, I'll be happy to use it--as, I'm sure, would many other Seaside developers. Otherwise, I'll stick to the existing code base, which has served me wonderfully.</div>
<div><br></div><div>In the meantime, I've added a rule to Gmail to automatically trash these threads, since the incredibly personal nature of the nominally objective attacks sadden me, and I do not wish to view them. I would gently encourage other readers on this list to do the same and get back to work.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>--Benjamin</div></div>