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I'm hardly what you would call knowledgeable in UNIX lol. Umm.. I just types that statement in and it went to a blank prompt.<br><br>I've actually had this problem over the last eight months or so... ever since I started learning Smalltalk and Seaside and friends. What I've noticed is that I'll try requesting something from the server on a given port and it simply won't respond. Uh, I'll let the mailing list know next time it happens, but the last time it's happened to me was a week or two ago and my computer had been on standby for a while if that matters. This is not to say it exclusively occurs after being on standby, only the most recent circumstance I can recall.<br><br>I even have a whole list of adapters that I've used in the past. All I do is stop the previous one and start a new one lol.<br><br>RS<br><br>Let me know if you need any logs or whatever and how to get them - I'm a noob :)<br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:18:55 +0100<br>Subject: Re: [Seaside] Komanche ?<br>From: ramiro@diaztrepat.name<br>To: seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org; Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr<br><br>Robert, can you see your port still listening with this command ?<br><br>sudo lsof -i -P | grep -i listen<br><br><br><br><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Ramiro Diaz Trepat <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ramiro@diaztrepat.name">ramiro@diaztrepat.name</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="padding-left: 1ex;">Ah, if Robert still has an image with the issue and if he does not mind giving it away for autopsy, maybe someone could look at it :)<div>
May be John Macintosh can help us.</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Robert Sirois <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:watchlala@hotmail.com">watchlala@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>I'm running the latest mac vm as well. I believe I attempted the same things to no avail.<br><br>RS<br><br>> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:39:37 +0200<div><div></div><div><br>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Komanche ?<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:renggli@gmail.com">renggli@gmail.com</a><br>> To: <a href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br>> <br>> I use the same configuration with the 4.1.1beta2U VM.<br>
> <br>> Lukas<br>> <br>> 2009/10/11 Ramiro Diaz Trepat <<a href="mailto:ramiro@diaztrepat.name">ramiro@diaztrepat.name</a>>:<br>> > Correlation does not mean causality, I know. But in my case this happened<br>
> > right after saving my image, although I had saved it many times before<br>> > without issues.<br>> > Cheers<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Ramiro Diaz Trepat <<a href="mailto:ramiro@diaztrepat.name">ramiro@diaztrepat.name</a>><br>
> > wrote:<br>> >><br>> >> Hi Lukas,<br>> >> I am using the latest Pharo, and I have loaded Seaside with ScriptLoader<br>> >> loadSeaside30. I am using it on a Mac with Leopard.<br>
> >> I have managed to reuse that port, with random tests and I do not believe<br>> >> there may be causality here, but I will tell you anyway what I did.<br>> >> When this happens, I removed the problematic adaptor from the Seaside<br>
> >> Control Panel and created a new one (on the same port), then I tried closing<br>> >> the image and restarting and it did not fix the problem. Although when I<br>> >> closed another non Seaside image I was running and then restarted the<br>
> >> problematic image it worked.<br>> >> I wonder now if it is not a mac vm issue or socket issue. Robert, are you<br>> >> also running on a mac?<br>> >> In spite I got the image working again, it is quite worring because we<br>
> >> don't know the cause when an image stops answering requests (although the<br>> >> image itself was not hanged at all and kept working fine), and, most weird<br>> >> of all, there is no exception or trace of a fault happening. This is really<br>
> >> what is making me wonder if it is not a low level socket issue that never<br>> >> gets to the image for it to throw an exception or anything at all.<br>> >> Cheers<br>> >><br>> >> r<br>
> >><br>> >> ps: I'm cross posting to Pharo because I believe this is not a Seaside<br>> >> issue.<br>> >><br>> >> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Robert Sirois <<a href="mailto:watchlala@hotmail.com">watchlala@hotmail.com</a>><br>
> >> wrote:<br>> >>><br>> >>> I'm using Pharo 1.0.10419, but I'm not sure how to check the other two. I<br>> >>> think I'm still running 2.9 in the image I checked.<br>
> >>><br>> >>> RS<br>> >>><br>> >>> > Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:30:37 +0200<br>> >>> > Subject: Re: [Seaside] Komanche ?<br>> >>> > From: <a href="mailto:renggli@gmail.com">renggli@gmail.com</a><br>
> >>> > To: <a href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br>> >>> ><br>> >>> > I've never seen this problem before.<br>
> >>> ><br>> >>> > What version of Pharo? Kom? Seaside?<br>> >>> ><br>> >>> > Lukas<br>> >>> ><br>> >>> > 2009/10/11 Robert Sirois <<a href="mailto:watchlala@hotmail.com">watchlala@hotmail.com</a>>:<br>
> >>> > > I've also had this problem for quite a while now and have not found<br>> >>> > > any way to fix the problem either.<br>> >>> > ><br>> >>> > > RS<br>
> >>> > ><br>> >>> > > Ramiro Diaz Trepat <<a href="mailto:ramiro@diaztrepat.name">ramiro@diaztrepat.name</a>> wrote:<br>> >>> > ><br>> >>> > >>Something really strange happened to me more than once now.In a<br>
> >>> > >> simple dev<br>> >>> > >>image (Pharo + Seaside3 + Kom on a Mac) after saving the image at<br>> >>> > >> some<br>> >>> > >>point, Komanche stops answering anything at all, althought the port<br>
> >>> > >> keeps<br>> >>> > >>listening (as listed on a terminal).<br>> >>> > >>No errors are displayed anywere but the port becomes unusable from<br>> >>> > >> that<br>
> >>> > >>point on.<br>> >>> > >>If I wish to continue using the same image I have to add another<br>> >>> > >> adaptor in<br>> >>> > >>the Seaside Control Panel and start again.<br>
> >>> > >>The "dead" ports never become usable again, not even stopping and<br>> >>> > >> removing<br>> >>> > >>the adaptor and adding a new one.<br>
> >>> > >>I am not even sure that this is a Komanche issue, as I said no error<br>> >>> > >> of<br>> >>> > >>anykind is visible.<br>> >>> > >>Has anyone come across this before?<br>
> >>> > >>_______________________________________________<br>> >>> > >>seaside mailing list<br>> >>> > >><a href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br>
> >>> > >><a href="http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside">http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside</a><br>> >>> > ><br>
> >>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> >>> > > seaside mailing list<br>> >>> > > <a href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br>
> >>> > > <a href="http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside">http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside</a><br>> >>> > ><br>
> >>> > ><br>> >>> ><br>> >>> ><br>> >>> ><br>> >>> > --<br>> >>> > Lukas Renggli<br>> >>> > <a href="http://www.lukas-renggli.ch">http://www.lukas-renggli.ch</a><br>
> >>> > _______________________________________________<br>> >>> > seaside mailing list<br>> >>> > <a href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br>
> >>> > <a href="http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside">http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside</a><br>> >>><br>> >>> ________________________________<br>
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> >>> <a href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br>> >>> <a href="http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside">http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside</a><br>
> >>><br>> >><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > seaside mailing list<br>> > <a href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br>
> > <a href="http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside">http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside</a><br>> ><br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>
> <br>> -- <br>> Lukas Renggli<br>> <a href="http://www.lukas-renggli.ch">http://www.lukas-renggli.ch</a><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> seaside mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside">http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside</a><br>
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