<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>better is anything that helps more people to get things done easier or cheaper or somehow more conveniently</div><div><br></div><div>If that means that you need to do less, the do less. </div><div><br></div><div>Just make it rock.</div><div><br></div><div>For all of us.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2008/02/usware-vs-themware.html">suggested reading here</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Johan Brichau wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>I'm curious: what is that 'better' than to be?<br><br>You don't _need_ those tools. They are just a handy addition when you're developing, which is when you have OB installed in an image anyway.<br><br>For the record, I just noticed, it's just the Seaside-Tools-Omnibrowser package that is depending on OB.<br><br>On 05 Jan 2011, at 17:56, Sebastian Sastre wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">yeah, that kind of why, exactly. The one that exposes the meaning. The only one useful.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">So, here is when the value of the rhetorical question kicks in: <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Here is the "open letter" to whoever decided that:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">1. it sucks <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">2. we know you know it sucks<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">3. we know you can do better<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">4. we're watching<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 5, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Johan Brichau wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 05 Jan 2011, at 16:22, Sebastian Sastre wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">why is 'Seaside-Tools package' coupled to (or depending on) OB?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">The technical answer is that (at least) the seaside control panel window is implemented using the OB framework.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">But I guess you are more wondering why that is the case, and that's not an answer I can give you.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Johan_______________________________________________<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">seaside mailing list<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside">http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">seaside mailing list<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside">http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside</a><br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>seaside mailing list<br><a href="mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org">seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br>http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside<br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>