Janko,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
On the web we have an opportunity, are we loosing it?<br>
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That's why I'm pushing this comparison and that's why I'd have and ESUG<br>
talk titled "On the web frontiers with Smalltalk". And a panel is<br>
planned too.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>So let's focus on the future - rather than on what features we currently have. </div><div>Clearly JTalk is innovative. </div><div>Anything similar you'd like to share with us? </div>
<div>I've heard rumours that Gilad Bracha has a Newspeak to Javascript compiler working. Anyone seen anything?</div><div><br></div><div>As another example, I was intrigued to learn that the web version of Angry Birds (<a href="http://chrome.angrybirds.com/">http://chrome.angrybirds.com/</a>) used the Java->Javascript translator in GWT (Google web toolkit) to automate the translation of (some of) the game from Java to Javascript (sadly I've lost the link). One way of looking at this, is that all web apps will potentially gain access to the libraries in the Java ecosystem; in this case JBox2D (the physics engine) on the client.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Although it's great to be able to generate Javascript from your backend, but what about making it equally easy to target Objective-C based iPhones clients, and Java based Android clients? Perhaps Lukas's Helvetia is part of the puzzle?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Nick</div><div><br></div></div>