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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sebastian,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Car and airplane crashes are also a bit of an exception case, yet so much effort goes into development and testing of safety systems. I’m not sure what your end game is in this thread? If you’re trying to convince the rest of us to remove the part of the framework that’s important to a lot of people, you likely will not succeed. But if you’re trying to understand the reasons for the redirect so you can make informed decisions for your own applications, by all means.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Boris<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:seaside-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sebastian Sastre<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 03, 2011 7:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> Seaside - general discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Seaside] Seaside redirects, really?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Julian Fitzell wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Similarly the redirects serve a well<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>thought purpose.<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>which is what exactly?<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>can you describe that well thought purpose?<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Decouple the callback processing from the rendering.<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br><span class=apple-style-span>Thus ensuring that (a) hitting refresh doesn't re-trigger an action</span><br><span class=apple-style-span>and (b) you don't get the browser dialog asking if you want to</span><br><span class=apple-style-span>resubmit form data when you hit the Back button.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>okay those are reasons.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Questions:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>for a: the refresh is an exception case, not the normal case, yet everything gets penalized because of that?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>for b: the browser opens that dialog only on POST requests only when the user press the back button, again an exceptional case but seaside it's penalizing every other request because of that?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>sorry but that sounds right or "well thought" to you?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://about.me/sebastianconcept">sebastian</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>o/<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>